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02-13-2014, 11:31 PM
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Kyle Clifford


Sam Gagner
Ryan Smyth (%50)


Jeff Petry
Jake Muzzin
No. Petry is the only guy on our D who should actually be playing top 4 minutes, why would we move him for more forwards?

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Stauffer pulls out his crystal ball for this one:

Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 14m

Would not surprise me if the Oilers look at getting a multi-year extension with Ben Scrivens done with his agent Jay Fee down the road...

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02-14-2014, 12:19 AM
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Kyle Clifford


Sam Gagner
Ryan Smyth (%50)


Jeff Petry
Jake Muzzin
So, so, so bad.

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02-14-2014, 12:36 AM
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The Sharks defensive depth is relatively shallow and inexperienced, no?

I think Nick Schultz could be their guy. Do the Sharks have more than 6 d-men that should be in the NHL?

Edit: Just checked, they have 7 d-men, but #6 &7 are Braun and Irwin.

If a guy like Hannan or Stuart gets hurt, they'd be in some trouble.

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02-14-2014, 12:42 AM
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Kyle Clifford


Sam Gagner
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Jeff Petry
Jake Muzzin
lol are you for real?

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02-14-2014, 12:58 AM
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Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 14m

Would not surprise me if the Oilers look at getting a multi-year extension with Ben Scrivens done with his agent Jay Fee down the road...
Down the road lol.

If Scrivens doesn't sign before the trade deadline there's no guarantee he signs here at all.

The Oilers would be stupid not to trade him at the deadline if they're going to be stuck competing with 29 other teams for his services as a ufa. The guy made the Oilers win, he could just as easily walk on water.

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Regarding Gagner
if gagner goes to buff he may go his entire career without making the playoffs/or even being in the playoff race

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02-14-2014, 01:03 AM
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Stauffer mentioned the Sharks had been looking at the Oilers closely.

Hmm.....

Hemsky for Havlat was rumored a while back no?
Scouting Scrivens some more to steal him in off season

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02-14-2014, 01:07 AM
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If you rearrange the letters in "Oiltankjob Fail" it doesn't spell Craig MacTavish. That's so wierd.

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02-14-2014, 01:46 AM
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The Sharks defensive depth is relatively shallow and inexperienced, no?

I think Nick Schultz could be their guy. Do the Sharks have more than 6 d-men that should be in the NHL?

Edit: Just checked, they have 7 d-men, but #6 &7 are Braun and Irwin.

If a guy like Hannan or Stuart gets hurt, they'd be in some trouble.
Hannan and Irwin are 6 and 7...Braun is #2. The Sharks defense shakes out like this...

Vlasic
Braun
Demers
Boyle
Stuart
Hannan
Irwin.

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02-14-2014, 02:32 AM
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Down the road lol.

If Scrivens doesn't sign before the trade deadline there's no guarantee he signs here at all.

The Oilers would be stupid not to trade him at the deadline if they're going to be stuck competing with 29 other teams for his services as a ufa. The guy made the Oilers win, he could just as easily walk on water.
I completely disagree.

There's always risk involved in any player decisions. Keeping Scrivens is the right risk to take in our case. The goaltender position is just too critical and singular for us to just throw away a potential starter for some draft pick, which in itself is a huge risk (and seriously we aren't getting any key roster players back for Scrivens btw. It would be a pick).

If the plan is to make a trade for a goalie, then only trade Scrivens AFTER that deal is made. I don't see a potential move out there though.

If the plan is to sign a UFA, then there is huge risk there, especially for a rebuilding squad like our's. Scrivens is a good age for our club. Going the UFA route likely gives us an older worse option.

Holding onto Scrivens gives us a huge re-sign advantage. He's also from here, lowering the risk of him walking a bit. We would also have that whole time to sell the future of the team to Scrivens, for him to see what this team's potential really is, and that would lower the risk even more.

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02-14-2014, 03:32 AM
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I don't think MacT is dumb enough to let Scrivens walk or trade him for a pick given how he's been goalie hunting all season. While I don't think Scrivens has outright proven he can be a starting goalie for a season, he's the best goalie on the team right now, and he's certainly an excellent 1b option at the very least. He'll be re signed.

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02-14-2014, 05:37 AM
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Hannan and Irwin are 6 and 7...Braun is #2. The Sharks defense shakes out like this...

Vlasic
Braun
Demers
Boyle
Stuart
Hannan
Irwin.
I fail to see how this affects my point

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02-14-2014, 09:01 AM
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I don't think MacT is dumb enough to let Scrivens walk or trade him for a pick given how he's been goalie hunting all season. While I don't think Scrivens has outright proven he can be a starting goalie for a season, he's the best goalie on the team right now, and he's certainly an excellent 1b option at the very least. He'll be re signed.
Perhaps he will want to see what other options are available before committing to the worst run organization in pro sports.

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02-14-2014, 09:37 AM
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Perhaps he will want to see what other options are available before committing to the worst run organization in pro sports.
perhaps he sees the fact the team has a winning record with him and feels like its a legit place to be a starter not jut next year but for the forseeable future

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02-14-2014, 09:51 AM
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I fail to see how this affects my point
It affects your point because the Sharks have legit defensive depth. A top-4 of Vlasic, Braun, Demers, and Boyle can definitely get the job done, and if one of them gets hurt, they still have Stuart at #5 who can step in and play top-4 minutes. They also have Burns at forward right now who can be switched back to defense whenever they need. I don't see SJ clambering to pick up Nick Schultz. Hemsky would be more likely IMO.

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02-14-2014, 10:03 AM
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perhaps he sees the fact the team has a winning record with him and feels like its a legit place to be a starter not jut next year but for the forseeable future
Lets hope so.

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02-14-2014, 11:39 AM
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perhaps he sees the fact the team has a winning record with him and feels like its a legit place to be a starter not jut next year but for the forseeable future
This. How many teams would he have this much of a shot to be the starter? 3 or 4, tops.

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02-14-2014, 12:32 PM
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There's also the hometown factor and whether he and his wife would want to move again. If he was going to be moved, I'd definitely be doing a lot of consultation with the Professor before doing so.

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02-14-2014, 01:50 PM
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Stauffer re: The Fourth Period on Colin Wilson potentially for Gagner. Says that would be the type of player to be the return, follows it up with "where was that said?" "... interesting"

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There's also the hometown factor and whether he and his wife would want to move again. If he was going to be moved, I'd definitely be doing a lot of consultation with the Professor before doing so.
also the fact that the defence is so bad that he can see every shot clean cause they are all out of position so the saves are easy, sure there is 50 of them but they are clean looks

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02-14-2014, 02:28 PM
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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?p...8&blogger_id=1

It is Eklund but it talks about Yak to CBJ. Who would you want in return for him?
Players that would interest me is Anisimov, Jenner and one other assets. What would you want?
I would want Dubi and Jenner but can't see them moving him when they are fighting for a playoff.

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02-14-2014, 02:33 PM
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http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nas140214.html

The Preds are believed to be dangling the likes of forward Colin Wilson and defenseman Ryan Ellis as trade bait

What do you guys think?

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It is Eklund but it talks about Yak to CBJ. Who would you want in return for him?
Players that would interest me is Anisimov, Jenner and one other assets. What would you want?
I would want Dubi and Jenner but can't see them moving him when they are fighting for a playoff.
I'd want Jenner + Tyutin, or Dubinsky + Tyutin.
If they won't give up Murray of course.

For Murray I'd do a trade like Yak + Klefbom for Murray + Jenner (not exactly but along those lines).


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The Preds are believed to be dangling the likes of forward Colin Wilson and defenseman Ryan Ellis as trade bait

What do you guys think?
No Leprechauns, but Wilson is interesting, 2nd/3rd line center/winger with size and some skill. I wonder if he could fit as a 2nd line center with more skill on his wings then was ever available in Nashville.

I wonder what they are looking for.

Edit: Gagner for Wilson would be a very nice move for the Oilers, imo.


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