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02-16-2014, 12:38 PM
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Not sure if its been discussed, but Stauffer mentioned on Friday the possibility of Hemsky to Montreal (to play with Plekanec) for either a 2nd or a 'B' prospect.

I'm sick of draft picks.
My opinion:

'A' prospects:
Bournival
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Tinordi
Beaulieu

'B' prospects:
Hudon
Thrower
De La Rose
McCarron

I remember in the '12 draft a lot of fans were hoping to get Dalton Thrower (big d-man) with their 2nd, but we ended up with Moroz.

I'd love to get Tinordi though
I'd be OK getting de la Rose or McCarron. Wanted both of them to fall to our second last year. Not sure if Mtl would be that anxious to deal such recent picks though. Think I'd prefer de la Rose, would potentially be a good fit as a 2/3 C/LW.

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McCarron straight up for Hemsky would work for me. As long as our core is a bunch of smallish skilled players we need to surround them with beef to balance the team a bit. McCarron is 6'5" and 237lbs. as an 18 year old, that's a big kid!

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McCarron straight up for Hemsky would work for me. As long as our core is a bunch of smallish skilled players we need to surround them with beef to balance the team a bit. McCarron is 6'5" and 237lbs. as an 18 year old, that's a big kid!
I've only seen him play once at the beginning of the season, but at least in terms of stats McCarron is having a pretty terrible year in London.

edit: Which might make him easier to acquire, I'd still be interested.

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Montreal has some great prospects, but McCarron isn't one of them. Prospects that don't average over .50 ppg in the season after their draft usually are ones that don't amount too much. They have a lot to like though, and could be an interesting option.

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Not only is McCarron not producing, he's a 6'5", 230lbs+ *****cat. But that's always been the case.

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I've only seen him play once at the beginning of the season, but at least in terms of stats McCarron is having a pretty terrible year in London.

edit: Which might make him easier to acquire, I'd still be interested.
His stats aren't great but London has traditionally rolled their top 2 lines heavily.

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Not only is McCarron not producing, he's a 6'5", 230lbs+ *****cat. But that's always been the case.
7 fights this season, none of which he lost by my eye = a *****cat?

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Whats the story on De La Rose?

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02-16-2014, 04:07 PM
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His stats aren't great but London has traditionally rolled their top 2 lines heavily.
He's being outproduced by 9 forwards on his team. Yeah he was a first rounder but wasn't he ranked in the 3rd round?

It's possible the Habs got tricked by his size and valued it too highly. Do you want to also make the same mistake?

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02-16-2014, 04:15 PM
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Not sure if its been discussed, but Stauffer mentioned on Friday the possibility of Hemsky to Montreal (to play with Plekanec) for either a 2nd or a 'B' prospect.

I'm sick of draft picks.
My opinion:

'A' prospects:
Bournival
Collberg
Tinordi
Beaulieu

'B' prospects:
Hudon
Thrower
De La Rose
McCarron

I remember in the '12 draft a lot of fans were hoping to get Dalton Thrower (big d-man) with their 2nd, but we ended up with Moroz.

I'd love to get Tinordi though
De La Rose is the most appealing IMO, but he might even be considered an "A" propect? McCarron would be the other player I would do 1 for 1.

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Whats the story on De La Rose?
Scouting report makes him sound like a poor mans Landeskog. Not the most skilled offensively, but plays with an edge, likes physical play, very solid two way game and a natural leader. Also has decent size at 6'2", 190lbs; just needs to fill in a bit.

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02-16-2014, 04:30 PM
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He's being outproduced by 9 forwards on his team. Yeah he was a first rounder but wasn't he ranked in the 3rd round?

It's possible the Habs got tricked by his size and valued it too highly. Do you want to also make the same mistake?
The kid is huge and is tough. Hemsky is on the outs anyway, unless we can get a player with size and better skill for Hemsky, I'd take a shot at him.

5 of the forwards that have more points than him are older than him and the 2 that are the same age happen to be much higher 1st round picks in Domi and Horvat. Look at a guy like Moroz, he didn't do a whole lot in his post draft year, but a year later has really taken off.

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Agree that D Ladislav Smid will be dealt before March 5 NHL trade deadline. Would be a nice fit on Caps' blue line. #CapitalsTalk

This seems like more speculation but Smid could be traded again. A rough year for him so far.

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Agree that D Ladislav Smid will be dealt before March 5 NHL trade deadline. Would be a nice fit on Caps' blue line. #CapitalsTalk

This seems like more speculation but Smid could be traded again. A rough year for him so far.
Would be a kick to the nuts if the Flames are able to get a 1st rounder/top prospect if they traded Smid.

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Would be a kick to the nuts if the Flames are able to get a 1st rounder/top prospect if they traded Smid.
It won't matter if they get a 7th for him, people will still claim we got screwed.

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It won't matter if they get a 7th for him, people will still claim we got screwed.
thats because we DID get screwed in that trade

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Kings unlikely to resume Sam Gagner trade talks

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...#axzz2thEM9qtT

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"We couldn't get him for this ****-sandwich offer so we don't want him anymore."

Frankly, I'm relieved if that's true. Trading Gagner is one thing. Trading him for 4th liners is another.

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Kings unlikely to resume Sam Gagner trade talks

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...#axzz2thEM9qtT
Never heard of her, but she makes it sound like there hasn't been any talks since the freeze. I'd be shocked if MacT hasn't talked to DL since the freeze.

Is she reliable? As it's usually Helen or the Mayor who is credible out of LA.

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Would be a kick to the nuts if the Flames are able to get a 1st rounder/top prospect if they traded Smid.
The return WILL be a kick in the nuts if Calgary deals him. We should've been offering him for Orlov

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02-18-2014, 01:29 PM
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If the chance to flush Gagner has been lost, we can in part blame those bloggers who hold some bizarre fetishistic attachment to this lost cause of a second line center.
Of course, most blame rests on MacTavish's endless indecision and over-estimation of Gagner's value.
As I have consistently said, addition by subtraction , just put Gagner on waivers and call up Arcobello. The team improves immediately and gains cap space.
The last 25 games of the season cannot have him playing as an Oiler.
Imperative.

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If the chance to flush Gagner has been lost, we can in part blame those bloggers who hold some bizarre fetishistic attachment to this lost cause of a second line center.
Of course, most blame rests on MacTavish's endless indecision and over-estimation of Gagner's value.
As I have consistently said, addition by subtraction , just put Gagner on waivers and call up Arcobello. The team improves immediately and gains cap space.
The last 25 games of the season cannot have him playing as an Oiler.
Imperative.
Honestly, I'm sincerely suprised you haven't won any awards for being the most level headed, least bias and least hyperbolic poster here. Just so much "good sense" in there.

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If the chance to flush Gagner has been lost, we can in part blame those bloggers who hold some bizarre fetishistic attachment to this lost cause of a second line center.
Of course, most blame rests on MacTavish's endless indecision and over-estimation of Gagner's value.
As I have consistently said, addition by subtraction , just put Gagner on waivers and call up Arcobello. The team improves immediately and gains cap space.
The last 25 games of the season cannot have him playing as an Oiler.
Imperative.
While I agree in trying to move Gagner to better balance our roster, it is not "imperative" that we move him prior to the deadline. In fact, we're probably better off keeping him down the stretch where he usually plays his best hockey to help boost his value for a trade prior to the draft.

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Kings unlikely to resume Sam Gagner trade talks

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I like to hear this.

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While I agree in trying to move Gagner to better balance our roster, it is not "imperative" that we move him prior to the deadline. In fact, we're probably better off keeping him down the stretch where he usually plays his best hockey to help boost his value for a trade prior to the draft.
I think we have to be careful though to not hold on to Gagner hoping that he can turn it around and boost his value. It is pretty much what we did with Hemsky and now we are struggling to even offload the guy. I am pretty sure that this won't happen to Gagner as he can still turn it around but I think there is quite the risk in just banking on someone to reach the value you think they should have.

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thats because we DID get screwed in that trade
A little early to call it at this point. Calgary is already willing to throw the guy on the scrap heap and we have a decent goalie prospect and 3.5mil we don't have to pay to another third pairing boat anchor.

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