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Hart Trophy worthy season without winning one.

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02-13-2014, 01:02 AM
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Doug Gilmour '93

Lead the Leafs with 132 points, +32


Borchevsky was 2nd on the team with 78 points
Glenn Anderson 3rd with 65 points


And a case could be made that Hasek deserved a few more Hart trophies during his time with the Sabres
It was actually 127 points but I agree with your point. Gilmour was THE Leafs in '93.

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02-13-2014, 11:05 PM
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It was actually 127 points but I agree with your point. Gilmour was THE Leafs in '93.
Right. 127.

It wouldn't surprise me if he lead all forwards in ice time that season

Powerplay, shorthanded, even strength, it didn't matter... he was out there

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Parent in 74 and 75, Robinson in 77, Potvin in 78 and 79, Bossy in 82, Yzerman in 89.
Yzerman in 89? Wasn't it bad enough he won the Pearson over Lemieux, you'd give him the Hart as well? And seriously, Bossy in 82 over Gretzky? Wayne broke records for most goals, most assists, most points, and 50 goals in 50 games, shattering all 4 of them by unbelievable amounts. Many people consider this Wayne's best season of all time. I'm not sure what argument would be made for Bossy over that. It wasn't like Bossy played for a bad team or anything...

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Yzerman in 89? Wasn't it bad enough he won the Pearson over Lemieux, you'd give him the Hart as well? And seriously, Bossy in 82 over Gretzky? Wayne broke records for most goals, most assists, most points, and 50 goals in 50 games, shattering all 4 of them by unbelievable amounts. Many people consider this Wayne's best season of all time. I'm not sure what argument would be made for Bossy over that. It wasn't like Bossy played for a bad team or anything...
From what I gather, the original question was Hart Trophy "worthy" season without winning one. Not that they necessarily deserved it over the actual winner. Case in point, Yzerman in 1989 was definitely one of those seasons where you could name several Hart trophy winning seasons that he was better than.

But I do agree, if there was anyone who got the shaft that year it was Mario. There are times I can see the argument that Gretzky gets the Hart. Sometimes it makes sense to me. But the Pearson NOT going to Mario in 1989 was a travesty based on the definition of the award. No way should a guy with 44 less points and 20 less goals be considered "more outstanding". I know there was a bit of a bias against Mario at that time, but come on.


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Yzerman in 89? Wasn't it bad enough he won the Pearson over Lemieux, you'd give him the Hart as well? And seriously, Bossy in 82 over Gretzky? Wayne broke records for most goals, most assists, most points, and 50 goals in 50 games, shattering all 4 of them by unbelievable amounts. Many people consider this Wayne's best season of all time. I'm not sure what argument would be made for Bossy over that. It wasn't like Bossy played for a bad team or anything...
I was going to make a post like this but then I was reminded what the title was.

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Very surprising Maurice Richard's 50 in 50 season in 1944-45 hasn't been mentioned yet at all.

I'd have to say this ranks Top-3 all-time in Hart worthy seasons without winning one and one of the biggest robberies ever.

Lach did set the assists record and win the Art Ross but what is that compared to 50 in 50.

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Yzerman in 89? Wasn't it bad enough he won the Pearson over Lemieux, you'd give him the Hart as well? And seriously, Bossy in 82 over Gretzky? Wayne broke records for most goals, most assists, most points, and 50 goals in 50 games, shattering all 4 of them by unbelievable amounts. Many people consider this Wayne's best season of all time. I'm not sure what argument would be made for Bossy over that. It wasn't like Bossy played for a bad team or anything...
Never said they were the best candidate those particular seasons. Only extremely valuable players that didnt win, but normally might have.

I just chose guys I didn't really see mentioned yet.


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Lundqvist in 2012 could have won. He was unlucky that his career season happened to be the same year as Malkin's

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Yzerman in 89? Wasn't it bad enough he won the Pearson over Lemieux, you'd give him the Hart as well? And seriously, Bossy in 82 over Gretzky? Wayne broke records for most goals, most assists, most points, and 50 goals in 50 games, shattering all 4 of them by unbelievable amounts. Many people consider this Wayne's best season of all time. I'm not sure what argument would be made for Bossy over that. It wasn't like Bossy played for a bad team or anything...
In the spirit of this thread the example is valid.

Yzerman should definitely NOT have taken the Hart that year and the Pearson was robbed from Mario. But in all-time sense Yzerman had a season that would most likely have netted him Hart without Mario & Gretzky.

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Eric Lindros in 1995-96
Joe Thornton in 2006-07 (More impressive than his 2005-06 season imo)

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Never said they were the best candidate those particular seasons. Only extremely valuable players that didnt win, but normally might have.

I just chose guys I didn't really see mentioned yet.
Ok, sorry. I was taking it more along the lines of people who should have won the Hart that year but didn't. Please accept my apology.

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Eric Lindros in 1995-96
Joe Thornton in 2006-07 (More impressive than his 2005-06 season imo)
Jagr and Lemieux were far and away the best players in the NHL that season.

Lindros being a Hart finalist over Jagr is sham on its own. I guess having Lemieux on his team hurt Jagr's chances of being a Hart finalist.

I think Jagr's 1995-96 season might be one of the most unappreciated seasons in NHL history.

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