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02-11-2014, 04:37 PM
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Frans is one of the few players I'm happy with this year. Shame he got injured-but hopefully we win anyways. I really want to hold onto next year's pick.

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02-11-2014, 05:25 PM
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2 games? Blatant 2 hand slash....

Strome back up. does it really matter if he or nelson is 2 or 3 C. Who is going to play wing on either of those lines? grabner, clutter, mcdonald and Lee maybe? Im assuming vanek is dealt and bailey moves up....

wow...pathetic. Bring back Ness to make this season complete
Johnson isn't a dirty player. I believe this was a poor decision on his part. 2 Games is fine to me. I thought he might only get 1 TBHWY.

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02-11-2014, 05:44 PM
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Johnson isn't a dirty player. I believe this was a poor decision on his part. 2 Games is fine to me. I thought he might only get 1 TBHWY.
Meanwhile frans breaks his hand...one guy out 2 games...one guy out hopefully a month and rehabbing a broken bone. Feel how you like...

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02-11-2014, 06:06 PM
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Meanwhile frans breaks his hand...one guy out 2 games...one guy out hopefully a month and rehabbing a broken bone. Feel how you like...
That's not the way suspensions should work.

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02-11-2014, 07:02 PM
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The people who think neilsen can or should be traded are out of their minds. we lose frans we lose an extra 5-8 games a season
Ugh, yeah I'm so tired of that talk!! I trade Strome before Nielsen NO IF ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT it. Some people are so freaking hung up on every dang prospect that enters this system that they constantly place them higher than proven players. It's delusional...

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02-11-2014, 07:23 PM
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Ugh, yeah I'm so tired of that talk!! I trade Strome before Nielsen NO IF ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT it. Some people are so freaking hung up on every dang prospect that enters this system that they constantly place them higher than proven players. It's delusional...



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02-11-2014, 07:27 PM
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That's not the way suspensions should work.
It should absolutely be factored in. I'm not saying it is the be all end all, but it has to be factor. If Johnson takes a hack and Nielsen and no injury occurs, then ok, he got lucky, minor suspension. If he hacks a Nielsen and breaks his hand, then tough, your suspension is getting upped.

If rear end someone and they get seriously injured vs a rear end that's a fender bender, the consequences are different.

It has to be taken into account.

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02-11-2014, 09:31 PM
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Ugh, yeah I'm so tired of that talk!! I trade Strome before Nielsen NO IF ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT it. Some people are so freaking hung up on every dang prospect that enters this system that they constantly place them higher than proven players. It's delusional...


Talk about taking things a bit too far to make a point.

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02-11-2014, 09:36 PM
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It should absolutely be factored in. I'm not saying it is the be all end all, but it has to be factor. If Johnson takes a hack and Nielsen and no injury occurs, then ok, he got lucky, minor suspension. If he hacks a Nielsen and breaks his hand, then tough, your suspension is getting upped.

If rear end someone and they get seriously injured vs a rear end that's a fender bender, the consequences are different.

It has to be taken into account.
I think there's a big difference between driving a motor-vehicle and playing a sport.

I also think there's a difference between being injured on a routine-ish hockey play and Chris Simon.

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02-11-2014, 11:02 PM
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Meanwhile frans breaks his hand...one guy out 2 games...one guy out hopefully a month and rehabbing a broken bone. Feel how you like...
If you are looking for the league to institute a system where the suspension is equal to the injury time you have a long wait ahead of you because it just won't happen Duster.

Look on the bright side, at least it got reviewed and Eric was suspended. Remember the Phaneuf headshot on Okposo during a preseason game that resulted in no suspension? That is something worth getting upset about as opposed to this.

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02-12-2014, 07:36 AM
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Well we'll definitely get to see Strome now.

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02-12-2014, 08:06 AM
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If you are looking for the league to institute a system where the suspension is equal to the injury time you have a long wait ahead of you because it just won't happen Duster.

Look on the bright side, at least it got reviewed and Eric was suspended. Remember the Phaneuf headshot on Okposo during a preseason game that resulted in no suspension? That is something worth getting upset about as opposed to this.
I'm not advocating for a you missed x so he misses x. That's a bit much. I do feel like severity of injury should have some factor in the suspension decision...and maybe it does. I just don't see the league sending a great message by suspending a guy for 2 games after a blatant chop (he goes 2 hands and draws his stick back over his head) that results in a broken hand and a month + of missed time...

The KO hit was brutal. Phaneuf is a joke.

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02-12-2014, 01:20 PM
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At least it happened before the Olympic break. He probably wont even miss many games.

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02-12-2014, 01:30 PM
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Johnson isn't a dirty player. I believe this was a poor decision on his part. 2 Games is fine to me. I thought he might only get 1 TBHWY.
Agreed, Johnson plays the game clean. And he seems to be coming into his own as a player, proof that Dmen take time to mature. I know me, as a HUGE Isle's fan, I sometimes am impatient with our prospects, but Johnson (who is one of Mayfield's friends and idols) is finally showing that patience can be rewarded. This is a great example of why Johnson was a #1 overall pick (to another #1 overall pick).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEFRsQbgrOA

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02-12-2014, 01:44 PM
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Does this mean Strome AND Lee? I assumed Strome would take Regin's spot in the lineup. Now with Frans out, I guess Lee is the next in line. Wouldn't mind seeing Sundstrom though, TBH. Maybe try this out for a few:

Vanek - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nelson - Strome
Grabner - Sundstrom - Clutterbuck
Martin - Cizikas - McDonald
x - Boulton

..then once Frans comes back and Vanek/MacDonald are dealt:

Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Lee - Nelson - Strome
Grabner - Nielsen - Sundstrom
Martin - Cizikas - Clutterbuck
x - McDonald; Boulton

de Haan - Hamonic
Hickey - Visnovsky
Strait - Donovan
x - Carkner

Get a nice peak at some youngsters in the final 20.

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02-13-2014, 01:57 AM
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Talk about taking things a bit too far to make a point.
Seriously? You think it's taking that too far? What?!?! If there are too many centers on our team (i don't agree that's the case) then I trade Strome before Nielsen. I don't think that's taking anything too far at all. JT is a number one center, Nelson has shown he could play a 2C if need be, even a 3C. I think Nielsen has proven he can play a 2C or 3C. Strome hasn't proven anything yet.

Just because I keep Nielsen over Strome doesn't mean I don't think Strome won't be good, or don't value him. Point is, Nielsen is more valuable, that's all there is to it. I don't think i'm going overboard with anything....I don't sit there like many fans in Islanders country who peg prospects in as hall of famers before they even set foot in the NHL (ie, everyone who thought Donovan would step up and perform as good as Streit and are now completely backtracking hoping nobody saw their comments).

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02-13-2014, 02:03 AM
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Does this mean Strome AND Lee? I assumed Strome would take Regin's spot in the lineup. Now with Frans out, I guess Lee is the next in line. Wouldn't mind seeing Sundstrom though, TBH. Maybe try this out for a few:

Vanek - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nelson - Strome
Grabner - Sundstrom - Clutterbuck
Martin - Cizikas - McDonald
x - Boulton

..then once Frans comes back and Vanek/MacDonald are dealt:

Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Lee - Nelson - Strome
Grabner - Nielsen - Sundstrom
Martin - Cizikas - Clutterbuck
x - McDonald; Boulton

de Haan - Hamonic
Hickey - Visnovsky
Strait - Donovan
x - Carkner

Get a nice peak at some youngsters in the final 20.
I'd rather

Grabner - Tavares - Okposo
Lee - Nielsen - Strome
Bailey - Nelson - Sundstrom
Martin - Cizikas - Clutterbuck

Bailey has done his best with third time minutes and not too much responsibility. I bury him as far down the lineup I can until he makes him self tradeworthy or plays himself right into the Bridge...I'd even swap him with Martin on that 3rd line.

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I dunno.... I think if you can get a legitimate starting goaltender (say, like a Pekka Rinne) or top 4 D (like a Hjalmarsson) for Frans, it's something you at least have to seriously consider.

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you can get a legitimate starting goaltender (say, like a Pekka Rinne)
Good luck with that one.

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02-13-2014, 01:53 PM
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We cannot afford to trade Nielsen...We have no depth...all we got are rookies and prospects. IF we kept Aucoin....things might be different.

people don't seem to realize we still don't have proper depth....we have a lot of nice prospects, but no depth...meaning...no people with experience to bail us out if we are riddled with injury.

the ONLY way I would say OK to trade Nielsen is if it a trade for McDavid at the 2015 draft. I don't want to tank this year and end up keeping the pick and giving Buffalo TWO lottery shots at a player that probably would have beat out McKinnon if they were in the same draft year.

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Any update on Nielsen? Return date? Can't find a thing online.

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Any update on Nielsen? Return date? Can't find a thing online.
According to Rose/Goring he's practising and could be back at the weekend.

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Looks like Both Frans and Martin were back at full practice today without any yellow non-contact jerseys.. good news hopefully...



https://twitter.com/StapeNewsday/with_replies

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Both Frans Nielsen and @mattymarts17 are with the main group at practice. #Isles pic.twitter.com/twCEQBbB0u

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02-28-2014, 12:58 PM
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Both Nielsen and Martin took light contact today, with Nielsen saying he's optimistic about tomorrow. Martin might wait until Sunday #Isles
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Staple projects Nielsen to be ready for Sunday's game in his article tonight.

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