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02-15-2014, 05:07 AM
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Ahh yes, career peak at age 21.

In his fourth year in the league Kessel had 55 points in 70 games (.78 ppg)
Eberle is currently in his fourth season and has .76 ppg, already have .97 ppg season under his belt



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Ales Hemsky had his career year at 23...
Offensively:
-Gretzky basically peaked at 21.
-Jagr and Lemiuex peaked at 24.
-Ovechkin seems to have peaked at 23 (he's 28).
-Crosby best season was when he was 20 (he's 26).
-Malkin's best year was when he was 23 (he's 27).
-Kovalchuk's best year was when he was 23 (he's 30).

It's actually not uncommon for guys who put up big years in their teens/early 20s to peak early...obviously it's not a rule or anything but a lot of people assume guys who put up good seasons at 20 are only going to get better and it's not necessarily true.


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02-15-2014, 06:12 AM
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Offensively:
-Gretzky basically peaked at 21.
-Jagr and Lemiuex peaked at 24.
-Ovechkin seems to have peaked at 23 (he's 28).
-Crosby best season was when he was 20 (he's 26).
-Malkin's best year was when he was 23 (he's 27).
-Kovalchuk's best year was when he was 23 (he's 30).

It's actually not uncommon for guys who put up big years in their teens/early 20s to peak early...obviously it's not a rule or anything but a lot of people assume guys who put up good seasons at 20 are only going to get better and it's not necessarily true.
Lemieux's best year was 92-93, he was 27. He had a 160 points in only 60 games (due to cancer). That's a better points per game average then when he put up 199 in 76 games at age 24. Gretzky had four years of over 200 points, so I don't agree that he peaked at age 21. Crosby's been injured a lot, I doubt his best years are behind him. Same with Malkin.

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02-15-2014, 09:09 AM
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Lemieux's best year was 92-93, he was 27. He had a 160 points in only 60 games (due to cancer). That's a better points per game average then when he put up 199 in 76 games at age 24. Gretzky had four years of over 200 points, so I don't agree that he peaked at age 21. Crosby's been injured a lot, I doubt his best years are behind him. Same with Malkin.
This. Geno always shines in the 1C when Crosby's out, I still imagine when he gets another good winger how good he will be.

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02-15-2014, 10:48 AM
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Yeah lets ignore the fact that LA was noticeable worse when Johnson was on the ice, but I'll just leave this for you, because you're obviously not taking my word for it.
So I make disparaging remarks about Me-Too bloggers, and you respond by... reposting a Me-Too blog entry.

Gotta love haters.

Hint: he's significantly improved in Columbus. Much like how Carter had significantly regressed while he was here.

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02-15-2014, 11:00 AM
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Jared Cowen and Cory Conacher

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02-15-2014, 11:19 AM
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Do you think Anaheim made a mistake in the Bobby Ryan trade?

Eberle for Gormley, Samuelsson, 1st (~#14-16?)

Ryan for Silfverberg, Noessen, 1st (~26-29?)

Looks awfully similar to me. And the Ryan trade happened in real life.
Ryan was under contract for 2 more seasons at the time of the deal, Eberle is under contract for 5 more seasons. I'd say the prospects are equal, as is the first, so yes it's a very similar package, but the circumstances are considerably different. Edmonton needs D help now, and the only way we're moving Eberle is if we get that. Gormley is an excellent prospect, but he's in the same calibre as Klefbom and Nurse, just ahead of them in terms of readiness. I don't see the incentive to move a young first line winger under contract long term. I'm not against trading either Ebs or Yak (or Hall in the right deal), but it has to be a deal that makes us better. I don't see this deal accomplishing that.

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02-15-2014, 11:21 AM
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Jared Cowen and Cory Conacher
How could Edmonton pass an offer like this up?

No, but the you get the award for worst Ebs proposal I've ever seen

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02-18-2014, 09:11 PM
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How could Edmonton pass an offer like this up?

No, but the you get the award for worst Ebs proposal I've ever seen

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02-18-2014, 09:14 PM
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How could Edmonton pass an offer like this up?

No, but the you get the award for worst Ebs proposal I've ever seen
This award should look like the gap between Ebs' teeth. Cowen hasn't been good this year and I don't even know where Conacher is. Horrible.

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02-18-2014, 09:33 PM
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Larsson ++. Everyone knows us NJ fans are all up in arms whenever any one goes after Adam but I'd definitely move him, or any of our D prospects + picks/prospects/salvador(please take him) to get Eberle. That kid is going to be GOOD, and he's already pretty damn good in the here and now. Larsson I honestly believe will become a top pairing D man. Before anyone brings up that he's in the AHL do a little research as to why.. Injury, Logjam at D, stupidity. Just a shame he's not up here helping us but to be honest he could be Shea Weber good and it wouldn't help.. devils d is great, offense is absolutely dreadful. I'd beg and plead for eberle any and every day of the week.

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02-18-2014, 09:35 PM
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This award should look like the gap between Ebs' teeth. Cowen hasn't been good this year and I don't even know where Conacher is. Horrible.
Michalek for Yakupov?

Since only THIS year matters and all.. right?

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02-18-2014, 09:50 PM
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Michalek for Yakupov?

Since only THIS year matters and all.. right?
You're aware that Eberle is 23 right? And Conacher and Cowen is maybe the worst offer that's been put forward here?

If there's one thing the oilers need its more midgets and bottom 4 defensemen...

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02-19-2014, 01:51 AM
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2nd and a prospect at best. Some of the players her is being compared to is silly. Eberle is not a go to guy and the fact his numbers fall off the map in games where he does not play with Hall and Hopkins should send off warning signs

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02-19-2014, 02:13 AM
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2nd and a prospect at best. Some of the players her is being compared to is silly. Eberle is not a go to guy and the fact his numbers fall off the map in games where he does not play with Hall and Hopkins should send off warning signs
hahahahahaha

Eberle would be the leading scorer for the Canucks.

2nd and a prospect.. too funny.

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02-19-2014, 09:16 AM
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Going by The Official HFBoards 2014 Player Evaluation Handbook...

A 1st overall pick is rated as 87/87 Sidney Crosbys on the HFBoards Player Evaluation Scale

You subtract one Sidney Crosby for each position you go down in the draft until you are at 0/87 Sidney Crosbys.

Eberle was drafted 22nd so that makes him 66/87 Sidney Crosbys on the HFBoards Player Evaluation Scale.

Basically you need to find a player or combination of players that has at least 66 Crosbys, but because of Committee Ruling 45 (b) you need to subtract 5 Crosbys for each player added and subract 1 Crosby for each million in cap hit, also known as the "Quantity for Quality Rule".
This is great... I love this post!

Also... back on topic. I've noticed these offers are WAY higher than they were in Oct/Nov (when they were downright insulting). Amazing how quickly HF opinion can rebound. (not saying I'd take any of them,.... but at least worthwhile of discussion)

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02-19-2014, 10:18 AM
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2nd and a prospect at best. Some of the players her is being compared to is silly. Eberle is not a go to guy and the fact his numbers fall off the map in games where he does not play with Hall and Hopkins should send off warning signs
I know you're from Vancouver but at least try. Eberle played his best hockey when RNH and Hall were both injured. Your post is just bad.......really bad

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