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02-14-2014, 02:09 PM
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Stl & edm

Do you guys see Stewart being available in the off season. He has one year left with a cap hit of 4.15mil. He is not having a good year and you have young players that can take his spot.

EDM needs some size on the wing and I would like to try him on a line with Hall and RNH.

What would you want for him in the off season?

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02-14-2014, 02:20 PM
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Either in a package for an upgrade or something similar to the Perron trade, but ideally it would be for a center, not any other position. You guys don't really have that type of center, either a realistic upgrade or a young guy with potential.

We'd basically have to be in love with Lander or Roy, which I doubt that we would be.

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For most teams I would say 1st+ a tier 2/3 center prospect but I doubt the Oilers would be looking to move their 2015 pick and certainly not 2014

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The way Stewart has played this year I can't see him getting a top 10 pick. Your team is loaded with centreman. What about a dmen prospects like Gernat, Musil and picks.

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The way Stewart has played this year I can't see him getting a top 10 pick. Your team is loaded with centreman. What about a dmen prospects like Gernat, Musil and picks.
I don't see it either, that's why I said what I said. And going forward are centers behind Backes are Sobotka and Berglund though Berglund has looked better on the wing. We have 4 or 5 solid looking D prospects with NHL potential. We have 0 center prospects that have any remote chance. In fact I think our only center prospects at all are Max Gardiner (sucks) and Phil McRae (in Europe, will never make NHL). Gernat, Musil, etc are nothing to us and we would look elsewhere if that is the best deal offered.

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I love how we say we only need centers and are immediately countered by being told we are loaded with centers, how bout these scrub D?

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I love how we say we only need centers and are immediately countered by being told we are loaded with centers, how bout these scrub D?
Every Blues fan just needs to change their avatars to "We need centers" until people start to truly realize that we indeed need centers.

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The way Stewart has played this year I can't see him getting a top 10 pick. Your team is loaded with centreman. What about a dmen prospects like Gernat, Musil and picks.
Please tell me about all these centers we have cause I don't see them..

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If the Blues want a centre, Gagner is the only one the Oilers have that is expendable. A package involving Gagner + Klefbom may work. Or perhaps their 2015 1st.

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If the Blues want a centre, Gagner is the only one the Oilers have that is expendable. A package involving Gagner + Klefbom may work. Or perhaps their 2015 1st.
Zero interest in Gagner or Klefbom.

However the Oilers' 2015 1st is by far the best offer I have seen for Stewart and we'd pretty much all do that in a heartbeat.

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Zero interest in Gagner or Klefbom.

However the Oilers' 2015 1st is by far the best offer I have seen for Stewart and we'd pretty much all do that in a heartbeat.
I would assume Oiler fans will hate that idea, however it is a good start. IMO the Blues would need to add, maybe a solid bottom 6 player or something.

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I would assume Oiler fans will hate that idea, however it is a good start. IMO the Blues would need to add, maybe a solid bottom 6 player or something.
Patrik Berglund ?

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Patrik Berglund ?
The problem is that the 2015 does not have fixed value, so if we keep adding players assuming the pick is gonna be really high, we in turn lower the value of the pick, since adding Berglund would help out. I would easily do Stewart for 2015 1st but would not do Stewart+Berglund

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*starts "Gagner for Stewart" chant*

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The problem is that the 2015 does not have fixed value, so if we keep adding players assuming the pick is gonna be really high, we in turn lower the value of the pick, since adding Berglund would help out. I would easily do Stewart for 2015 1st but would not do Stewart+Berglund
I would think Edmonton would add if Berglund was in the deal for the very reason you mentioned. But that's the whole idea of trading for/trading a 1st, it has a huge risk especially for the Oilers.

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The thing with Gagner is Hitchcock would take one look at his defense and immediately shunt him to wing, where we literally have no need for players. Gagner simply can't play center on the Blues, therefore he isn't of use to us.

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I would think Edmonton would add if Berglund was in the deal for the very reason you mentioned. But that's the whole idea of trading for/trading a 1st, it has a huge risk especially for the Oilers.
Yeah I understand the risk for Edmonton, and if I were EDM I wouldn't trade that pick. But the Blues also shouldn't trade two young middle 6 forwards for what could end up being not a top 5 pick. Stewart I can part with. Berglund too for a higher price, but right now he is an ideal reliable 3rd line player for us.

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Gagner would just be a worse version of Roy, he wouldn't be an upgrade.

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Why in the world would Edmonton want to trade a 2015 1st round pick for Chris freaking Stewart.

The team that has no consistency game to game and is a maybe playoff team in 2015 wants to trade for another inconsistent player but worse yet another inconsistent player in a position that isin't a need.

Chris Stewart is a guy who it would make sense for Edmonton to target only if the Blues decided they were tired of his inconsistent play (likely in the summer) and wanted to ditch his cap hit to pursue someone like Ryan Miller.

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Yeah I understand the risk for Edmonton, and if I were EDM I wouldn't trade that pick. But the Blues also shouldn't trade two young middle 6 forwards for what could end up being not a top 5 pick. Stewart I can part with. Berglund too for a higher price, but right now he is an ideal reliable 3rd line player for us.
What about one of your goaltenders?

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If Stewart goes to Edmonton, it would be their 2015 2nd+, just like Perron.

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The problem is that the 2015 does not have fixed value, so if we keep adding players assuming the pick is gonna be really high, we in turn lower the value of the pick, since adding Berglund would help out. I would easily do Stewart for 2015 1st but would not do Stewart+Berglund
Of course I understand, I just wanted to see if that was the sort of "solid bottom 6" player he'd want, since that is exactly the player I would, myself, target.

If you were going to trade for the 1st 2015 pick... With those two players, I'd only hope the Blues would trade at the draft. Otherwise, you're making the Oilers better and you're risking a lot!

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What about one of your goaltenders?
As long as you don't mean Allen, yes. But why would you really want Halak or Elliott as they are both UFA.

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As long as you don't mean Allen, yes. But why would you really want Halak or Elliott as they are both UFA.
I wasn't aware they were. I think you'll need to ask Oiler fans what the + should be, i'm just a neutral fan.

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Why in the world would Edmonton want to trade a 2015 1st round pick for Chris freaking Stewart.

The team that has no consistency game to game and is a maybe playoff team in 2015 wants to trade for another inconsistent player but worse yet another inconsistent player in a position that isin't a need.

Chris Stewart is a guy who it would make sense for Edmonton to target only if the Blues decided they were tired of his inconsistent play (likely in the summer) and wanted to ditch his cap hit to pursue someone like Ryan Miller.
Exactly. And that's probably how every GM views Stewart's theoretical value. My fellow Blues fans are delusional in regards to what he could bring back. The only variable is a huge post-season which obviously won't happen because he's a horrible hockey player.

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