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02-16-2014, 11:55 AM
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You are right, I think Kevin would benefit greatly from having a skin made of kevlar and wolverine-like regeneration powers. No wonder other teams would pass.
It sounds more like a rabbits foot, or a curse being lifted is what is in store. According to some, it is due to cuts that he has had issues with being healthy throughout his career. Talk about bad luck.

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02-16-2014, 12:07 PM
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I doubt he would drop his NTC to go to Edmonton, but I would probably do Gagner and Klefbom for Bieksa from a Canucks perspective.
Nucks need to add a piece as I said:

Something like:

Bieksa and Archibald or 2nd

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Gagner and Klefbom

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02-16-2014, 12:09 PM
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Nucks need to add a piece as I said:

Something like:

Bieksa and Archibald or 2nd

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Gagner and Klefbom
Wait you're an Oilers fan and would do that?

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Wait you're an Oilers fan and would do that?
Giving up Klefbom would hurt but subtracting Gagner would be great, I'm also a huge fan of Bieksa, like I said earlier though, I doubt MacT is interested in parting with Klefbom.

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Giving up Klefbom would hurt but subtracting Gagner would be great, I'm also a huge fan of Bieksa, like I said earlier though, I doubt MacT is interested in parting with Klefbom.
Fair enough.

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So....Lupul then?

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02-16-2014, 12:38 PM
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I would do Edler for Loophole and a 1st. That way we never again have to watch Garrison or Eddie try to play on the right side with the other.

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I would do Edler for Loophole and a 1st.
I have no desire to aquire Edler, we have enough of those type D, Bieksa or Tanev would be ideal. ( I know Tanev is not available)

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I have no desire to aquire Edler, we have enough of those type D, Bieksa or Tanev would be ideal. ( I know Tanev is not available)
Bieksa is pretty much a smaller RH version with a mean streak. Both of em can make you jump for joy, or rip your hair out. Yea Tanev is a no go.

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Bieksa is almost 33 and has a NTC. If he waives, it's a pretty safe bet that it'll only be to a serious contender. You could probably make a list of about 20 teams he wouldn't waive to pretty easily.


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02-16-2014, 12:52 PM
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Bieksa is almost 33 and has a NTC. If he waives, it's a pretty safe bet that it'll only be to a serious contender.
Bieksa has at least 3-4 years of solid play ahead of him.

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I know this is a long shot but something around Bieksa for Couturier?

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I know this is a long shot but something around Bieksa for Couturier?
Philadelphia does not do this.

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Bieksa has at least 3-4 years of solid play ahead of him.
At least a couple, I didn't say otherwise. All I said is that he isn't young anymore and would most likely not be willing to waive his NTC for anything less than a contender.

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02-16-2014, 02:31 PM
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I'd do a first + good prospect for bieksa. I'd prefer not to take a struggling player like franson, or joffrey 'glass' lupul.

Or I'd do a straight one for one hockey deal. Made a proposal yesterday with bieksa for Purcell and both fanbases agreed on it.

If lupul wasn't made of glass, lupul for bieksa wouldn't be bad.

I doubt bieksa would go to Edmonton, but I'd ask for marincin + a pick if he wanted to.

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Any add on to Gagner for Bieksa is not enough because the deal includes Gagner

Any deal involving Franson is also a no go, he's due a bigger contract than Bieksa most likely. The middle to late 1st doesn't make up for it. Lupul is a fine offer, but I'm not sure it fits now. The whole et younger thing.

Zucker 1st offer is ok. Nothing to jump at. But not a bad base.

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Zucker & 1st
I'd take that.

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I like edmontons offer but unlikely trade partner in our division etc. Also like Minnys offer.

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Any add on to Gagner for Bieksa is not enough because the deal includes Gagner

Any deal involving Franson is also a no go, he's due a bigger contract than Bieksa most likely. The middle to late 1st doesn't make up for it. Lupul is a fine offer, but I'm not sure it fits now. The whole et younger thing.

Zucker 1st offer is ok. Nothing to jump at. But not a bad base.
I would also take Zucker and a 1st.

Done deal.

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I would do something around Gagner and Klefbom but the Nucks would need to add a small piece to even it back out, I don't think MacT would be eager to move Klefbom
Id do it. I'm a Bieksa fan though and I'm not sure the deal makes sense for the Canucks. I think he'll be in the Boston discussions for sure. Assuming they're thinking of moving him of course.

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Zucker and a first I'm warming upto.

Don't know if I'd pull the trigger if I were Gm, and personally I'd want to keep Bieksa, but if we were to move him, that would be a good return.

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I would also take Zucker and a 1st.

Done deal.
Zucker hasnt prooved much in the nhl, and hasnt really lit the ahl up. Also we shouldnt be dealing a rhd, it should be moving 1 of the 3 lefties that make 4.6-5m instead.

hamhuis bieksa
Edler Tanev
Garrison Weber diaz corrado
Stanton

Of that group I would be ok if we traded or let Weber goes as a ufa. And move one of the higher priced lefties, to me honestly whichever one brings the best value. Of the three

Hamhuis: Best all around d especially in his own end. BC Boy doubt he waives NTC
Garrison: Has the PP bomb, our pp is brutal he should shoot more. Also BC and NTC
Edler: BEst offenssive Highest ceiling potential40-60pt d man year in year out. NTC Not from BC

So out of the 3, the most likely to waive would probably be Edler

I think we did overpay and give Garrison to big of a contract for a very short proven nhl career. Would have been ok if there wasnt a NTC. And dont care about fans saying he signed for less due to the NTC. Really has Garrison put in the years of solid top 4 play like hamhuis and Edler to actually deserve one...

Hammer Could have signed anywhere and chose his hometown

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He's most likely worth more to the Nucks than what would be offered. An he's not going to waive for the Oilers as decent as that deal sounds.

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I'd do a first + good prospect for bieksa. I'd prefer not to take a struggling player like franson, or joffrey 'glass' lupul.

Or I'd do a straight one for one hockey deal. Made a proposal yesterday with bieksa for Purcell and both fanbases agreed on it.

If lupul wasn't made of glass, lupul for bieksa wouldn't be bad.

I doubt bieksa would go to Edmonton, but I'd ask for marincin + a pick if he wanted to.
No to Bieksa for Purcell.

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Zucker hasnt prooved much in the nhl, and hasnt really lit the ahl up. Also we shouldnt be dealing a rhd, it should be moving 1 of the 3 lefties that make 4.6-5m instead.

hamhuis bieksa
Edler Tanev
Garrison Weber diaz corrado
Stanton

Of that group I would be ok if we traded or let Weber goes as a ufa. And move one of the higher priced lefties, to me honestly whichever one brings the best value. Of the three

Hamhuis: Best all around d especially in his own end. BC Boy doubt he waives NTC
Garrison: Has the PP bomb, our pp is brutal he should shoot more. Also BC and NTC
Edler: BEst offenssive Highest ceiling potential40-60pt d man year in year out. NTC Not from BC

So out of the 3, the most likely to waive would probably be Edler

I think we did overpay and give Garrison to big of a contract for a very short proven nhl career. Would have been ok if there wasnt a NTC. And dont care about fans saying he signed for less due to the NTC. Really has Garrison put in the years of solid top 4 play like hamhuis and Edler to actually deserve one...

Hammer Could have signed anywhere and chose his hometown
As much as I can't stand Edler most days. He really is the only offence on the backend, the other two left defence are home town guys who won't be traded.
Bieksa is logical because you have now free different players on the right side who can split the duties Bieksa has. Diaz/Corrado for offence and Tanev/Corrado for defence. I list Corrado on both because I see him as getting #6 minutes to start and the other two splitting the surfer minutes. But without Bieksa it'll be a by committee type situation on the right.

The deal for Diaz IMHO sealed Bieksa's fate.

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