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02-20-2014, 02:28 PM
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nooooooooo.... in what world is Nattinen better than Moen
In Hockeys Future World, where younger is ALWAYS better than older. Duh.

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02-20-2014, 02:38 PM
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nooooooooo.... in what world is Nattinen better than Moen
Bizzaro world.. Where you trade a **** pick in McDonaugh for superstar Scott Gomez, a player that can't cut it in the NHL Mike Ribeiro for norris winning Ninimaa

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He's been a solid pick up for the Habs.... He doesn't try to do anything to fancy, but he makes the smart plays, the high percentage plays, and gives you some speed and grit on the fourth line.... He does make some nice hits, and seems to work well with White. What more can you want from a fourth line guy? He's a meat and potatoes hockey player and quite frankly, that's only going to help this club that's been a weak sister for a long time....

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03-18-2014, 09:07 PM
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We need to keep this guy. Our 4th line hasn't looked this good in a very long time.

I liked Diaz. But it was clear that kid needed to play with bigger teammates as he was hesitant with the puck.

I liked the trade. I'm loving it ever since watching Weise play.

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03-18-2014, 09:10 PM
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For as great as he's been on the ice, watching him on 24ch, his optimism, good nature, and positive attitude was immediately noted. Great locker room addition.

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03-18-2014, 09:13 PM
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His speed brings a great dimension to the 4th line. Great trade!

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03-18-2014, 09:15 PM
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I too love this pick up. Raphael Diaz who? Who cares? This dude deserves to play every night.

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03-18-2014, 09:28 PM
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You are correct and I have a huge huge problem with one thing though. Why the hell does he get to play in the top 6? His one goal in 50 games just shows the fact that he simply isn't a good offensive player. Don't tell me it's because of injuries because in the past years, Moen's got plenty of ice time in the top 6. Now, I understand we got him for his experience and all around good play (Offence?) but he is easily replacable. Have we been winning games since he hasn't played? Yes. He is simply VERY VERY replacable. Keep in mind that we draft guys in 3rd or 4th rounds that can play in our bottom lines. Guys like Nattinen, Dumont can't play with us because of veterans. A line of Weise-White-Bournival just shows us that we have better alternatives for our 4th line then playing Moen and Parros.

Not potential to becoming better then Moen? That would be an overstatement consireding that White got more goals in the last game then Moen all season. Bournival has sometimes been projected to become a 2nd liner which Moen isn't talented enough to play in.
I see, that's why Bournival was sent down earlier this season, no room cause of vets, right ?

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03-18-2014, 09:32 PM
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Well, Moen won't get any top 6 role anytime soon, that's for sure.

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Briere-Plekanec-Gionta

Barring a trade, we'll win or die with that as our top 6.
Then you have to fit Glachenyuk and Eller with Prust, Moen, Bourque, White, Weise, Bournival and Parros to complete the line-up haha.
Like I was saying..

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His speed brings a great dimension to the 4th line. Great trade!
That's it, he may have stone hands but most 4th liners usually are not gifted in that department. The thing is he has first line speed and both Prust and Moen are good defensively. These are the types of players you want on 4th line.

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03-18-2014, 09:36 PM
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I too love this pick up. Raphael Diaz who? Who cares? This dude deserves to play every night.
Absolutely. Until he slows down though....consistency as always been a problem as he has that tendancy to go with the flow. If not, he's a perfect 4th liner. Anyway, it's not a problem, if you have to replace him, you go with White. But so far, he stays in the lineup for sure.

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I like how he fought McLeod, who is a superior fighter. It takes balls even if Mcleod is not a heavyweight. Still landed a few good ones too.

If we want to make some damage in the playoff, we need that kind of 4th line that can hit, fight, get the opponent off their games and generate some offense - or at least get the other team stuck in their territory - every game.

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03-18-2014, 09:42 PM
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That's it, he may have stone hands but most 4th liners usually are not gifted in that department. The thing is he has first line speed and both Prust and Moen are good defensively. These are the types of players you want on 4th line.
What makes you say "stone hands"? I see the opposite.

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03-18-2014, 10:51 PM
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Play him! He should be on the 4th every game.

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This will turn out to be one of the most underrated trade of the deadline.

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03-18-2014, 11:43 PM
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Too early for me to judge. So far he looks about like I expected/hoped, an adequate filler player who seems to have a good attitude. I don't think he'll ever be as good a player as Diaz, but that ship had apparently sailed, so we weren't ever going to get as good a player back, alas.
Weise has already contributed more to the Habs than Diaz did all season. He shows synergy with his fourth line teammates while Diaz was in and out of the lineup, not to mention that room has to be made for Tinordi and Beaulieu. In the win against Colorado the 4th line played as important a role as Vanek. While we're at at, I think the trade for Weaver worked out fairly well.

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03-19-2014, 01:21 AM
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Said at the time this was a good move by Bergevin. Big right handed shot with great speed... Likes to bang and crash and will drop the gloves when necessary. Glad to see such a great effort tonight from him (and the entire fourth line) and see him rewarded with some points...
He's the kind of depth you need for a long play off run.

I don't have the stats, but I bet if you looked at the games played since he was acquired, the team will have won way more with him in the lineup versus when he was scratched.

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03-19-2014, 06:48 AM
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This will turn out to be one of the most underrated trade of the deadline.
Not at the deadline, bro

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03-19-2014, 06:53 AM
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Said at the time this was a good move by Bergevin. Big right handed shot with great speed... Likes to bang and crash and will drop the gloves when necessary. Glad to see such a great effort tonight from him (and the entire fourth line) and see him rewarded with some points...
He's the kind of depth you need for a long play off run.

I don't have the stats, but I bet if you looked at the games played since he was acquired, the team will have won way more with him in the lineup versus when he was scratched.
With him in the lineup it's 9-1-1.

Without him: 0-3-0

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03-19-2014, 07:11 AM
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With him in the lineup it's 9-1-1.

Without him: 0-3-0
Haha that's awesome! Keep him in the lineup!

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03-19-2014, 07:17 AM
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Perfect energy player. Speed and a willingness to throw his weight around. Can't expect the sort of production he had with Moen and Prust last night, but you can expect that line to wreak some havoc along the way. Prust and Moen can both move up in the lineup as needed, and White can be inserted.

Simply put, Weise adds a lot the bottom 6.

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03-19-2014, 07:37 AM
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I'm at a loss at how a team, out of the playoffs, that's currently lacking so much energy and drive had no spot on their roster for Weise.

Tortorella

He's not entirely unskilled, too. Personally, I didn't expect much, and I'm genuinly surprised. He seems to have fired Moen back up, too!

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03-19-2014, 07:41 AM
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I'm at a loss at how a team, out of the playoffs, that's currently lacking so much energy and drive had no spot on their roster for Weise.

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He's not entirely unskilled, too. Personally, I didn't expect much, and I'm genuinly surprised. He seems to have fired Moen back up, too!
Ask people who were crying about the loss of Diaz how the struggling Nucks had no room in their lineup for him.

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03-19-2014, 07:50 AM
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I like Weise a lot more than Diaz.

Good trade.

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I still like Diaz a lot more than Weise, but Weise is a good 4th liner. I'm not sure he's any better than White or we'd do any differently with White in the lineup instead of him, but it gives us depth in case of injuries.

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