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02-18-2014, 09:28 PM
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Simon Despres

The Pens need wingers to help make a playoff push and for the future. He is easily in most top 6 and in some top 4. Despres is a two-way Dman, great size and skater, ready for an NHL role now and projects as a good top 4 Dman.

So what does your team offer for Simon Despres?

The Pens DO NOT need ANY defense at ALL.

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What would you add to Despres for Gallagher, if anything? If nothing, there is no deal to be made though. Bournival is another option, who I think would be a very solid long term player, but I don't think he holds enough value around the league for you guys to be interested.

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What would you add to Despres for Gallagher, if anything? If nothing, there is no deal to be made though. Bournival is another option, who I think would be a very solid long term player, but I don't think he holds enough value around the league for you guys to be interested.
Hmm. Gallagher would be with Crosby.

Despres
2nd
Orpik
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for Gallagher?

Anywhere close?

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Hmm. Gallagher would be with Crosby.

Despres
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for Gallagher?

Anywhere close?
I absolutely love Gallagher, and would be extremely nervous about trading him - whatever line he's on seems to do well, but I think that would be doable. Despres would be a great long term fit the the Habs. Orpik could be solid, even though he's a UFA. I would prefer a powerforward type of winger prospect over Orpik, but I know the Pens are short on wingers. I think I could do this deal though.

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How about our good friend PA Parenteau
If not can I interest you in Jamie Mcginn

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How about our good friend PA Parenteau
If not can I interest you in Jamie Mcginn
Pens are interested in both. What do ya want?

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I absolutely love Gallagher, and would be extremely nervous about trading him - whatever line he's on seems to do well, but I think that would be doable. Despres would be a great long term fit the the Habs. Orpik could be solid, even though he's a UFA. I would prefer a powerforward type of winger prospect over Orpik, but I know the Pens are short on wingers. I think I could do this deal though.
I feel Montreal feels the same. Maybe Pens add conditional 3rd, but not much more.

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Pens are interested in both. What do ya want?
Well considering this is a Despres thread, he would be the centerpiece, but I don't know much about him, would either team need to add in a deal for PAP?

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Well considering this is a Despres thread, he would be the centerpiece, but I don't know much about him, would either team need to add in a deal for PAP?
Not to sure tbh. Despres is probably worth about PAP. Not to sure about PAP as dumb as it sounds. But I imagine maybe

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PAP. You sold?

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Pretty sure acquiring Despres just puts him in the same awkward situation competing with Tinordi, Beaulieu and Pateryn for 1-2 spots max.

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What would you add to Despres for Gallagher, if anything? If nothing, there is no deal to be made though. Bournival is another option, who I think would be a very solid long term player, but I don't think he holds enough value around the league for you guys to be interested.
Would you do Despres and Sundqvist for Gallagher? Sundqvist's description:

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A tall, rangy forward with a nasty on-ice disposition and offensive talent to spare, Oskar Sundqvist brings a unique package of skills to the center position. Having played in the lower levels of Swedish junior hockey, Sundqvist's upside is largely still unknown. However, given his size, skating, and offensive skills, he could one day develop into an effective two-way center.

Aside from learning how to play on a smaller rink, he must add considerable weight and strength to his frame. He also needs to develop more explosiveness and cut back on penalties.

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Well considering this is a Despres thread, he would be the centerpiece, but I don't know much about him, would either team need to add in a deal for PAP?
I wouldn't deal Despres for PAP, too old and too big of a risk that he doesn't fit. Despres is a two-way Dman, great size and skater, ready for an NHL role now and projects as a good top 4 Dman.

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Anyway, I'd be looking for a young forward at a similar point of development for Despres. So no on McGinn or Parenteau for Despres.

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Would you do Despres and Sundqvist for Gallagher? Sundqvist's description:
The description sounds terribly enticing, but I think I'd pass. I think he's in the same boat as some of our prospects that fly under the radar like Lehkonen, Andrighetto, Collberg, etc. (not similar styles) and thus holds very little value. Admittedly though, I've never seen Sundqvist play.

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Not to sure tbh. Despres is probably worth about PAP. Not to sure about PAP as dumb as it sounds. But I imagine maybe

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PAP. You sold?
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Not to sure tbh. Despres is probably worth about PAP. Not to sure about PAP as dumb as it sounds. But I imagine maybe

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2nd

for

PAP. You sold?
I wouldn't even consider Despres for PAP straight-up, never mind adding a 2nd that we don't even have.

Neither Colorado option gets it done alone. I'd like McGinn, but the discussion for him doesn't include Despres.

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The description sounds terribly enticing, but I think I'd pass. I think he's in the same boat as some of our prospects that fly under the radar like Lehkonen, Andrighetto, Collberg, etc. (not similar styles) and thus holds very little value. Admittedly though, I've never seen Sundqvist play.
Yeah that's understandable. I've only seen him in the WJC, where he looked really good. He has also been playing against men this year, so it makes sense that he does well in the WJC actually.

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OP is acquiescing to some FISHY deals.

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Yeah that's understandable. I've only seen him in the WJC, where he looked really good. He has also been playing against men this year, so it makes sense that he does well in the WJC actually.
I'd like to see him play now though. That description of him sounds great. I must admit that I'd like to target DSP from the Ducks - I think he'd be great for the Habs.

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Id love to see Despres on the Isles, and we do have Vanek on the table. However I think the Isles would also need a first round pick along with it.

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Id love to see Despres on the Isles, and we do have Vanek on the table. However I think the Isles would also need a first round pick along with it.
Pens can't add Vanek's salary. Acquiring him for a player on an ELC is out of the question.

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Id love to see Despres on the Isles, and we do have Vanek on the table. However I think the Isles would also need a first round pick along with it.
Absolutely not. Not a chance. Rental Vanek whose odds of resigning is nil is not worth a Top 4 ELC PMD and a 1st.

For Okposo though...

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Why does there have to be a new Despres thread every week? It's the same answer every time.

Proven winger of similar age and potential, or part of a package for an established top 6 winger.

No need to trade Despres for anything that doesn't fill a more pressing need. The guy has gotten better with each showing and has all the tools to be a top pairing Dman.

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What would you add to Despres for Gallagher, if anything? If nothing, there is no deal to be made though. Bournival is another option, who I think would be a very solid long term player, but I don't think he holds enough value around the league for you guys to be interested.
Would love Gallagher, but I'm not sure what else we have that would interest the Habs. Megna is a good young player that would add size your lineup. He's been very impressive this year and should have no problem settling in as a solid 3rd liner or 2nd line tweener. Other than him I can't really think of anybody aside from Bennett who is pretty much off the table if Despres is the main piece.

I'd do Despres + Megna + 2015 2nd, although I understand if that's not enough to pry Gallagher away. Habs would probably look for Despres + Bennett, I don't think we could justify it knowing what we have with both players.

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Why does there have to be a new Despres thread every week? It's the same answer every week.

Proven winger of similar age and potential, or part of a package for an established top 6 winger.

No need to trade Despres for anything that doesn't fill a more pressing need. The guy has gotten better with each showing and has all the tools to be a top pairing Dman.



Would love Gallagher, but I'm not sure what else we have that would interest the Habs. Megna is a good young player that would add size your lineup. He's been very impressive this year and should have no problem settling in as a solid 3rd liner or 2nd line tweener. Other than him I can't really think of anybody aside from Bennett who is pretty much off the table if Despres is the main piece.

I'd do Despres + Megna + 2015 2nd, although I understand if that's not enough to pry Gallagher away. Habs would probably look for Despres + Bennett, I don't think we could justify it knowing what we have with both players.
Don't worry, I'm a die-hard Habs fan and a homer, but I wouldn't ever ask Despres + Bennett.

If you had a Bennett-lite type prospect, I'd absolutely ask that.

Despres is a good start. I think futures are the best option for adding, if you are willing to part with any.

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FLA:
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PIT:
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Both UFA rentals with low cap hits, playing pretty well for a **** team

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