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08-09-2005, 10:10 PM
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Jr. can still unload Klee and sign Hamrlik, then the D is

McCabe-Khavanov
Hamrlik- Kaberle
Berg- Pilaf
Belak

Cola starts on Marlies, to keep cap spending down and comes up for injuries only.

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I won't judge his style of play based on what I read. He might change, that's always possible.

The money (1.25) is alot to hand out under our circumstances.. We'll see.

I'm sick of these Thornton rumors.. He ISN'T comming here!! Please don't let stupid rumors get to your head people. This is just a depth signing.

McCabe-Kaberle
Khavanov-Klee
***-***

*** = Anyone of Berg, Pilar, Belak (if we decide to play him as a D-Man some games), Colaiacovo

That's all it is. Trading away Kaberle and Steen..
I agree. This rumor is just bs.

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08-09-2005, 10:11 PM
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JFJ would also know alot about Khavanov from the years he spent in St. Louis, so there must be something about his guy he likes.
Actually thats a very good point.

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08-09-2005, 10:12 PM
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But in this NHL, it will be rare, if not unadviseable, to keep two franchise players on the same team (e.g. Sakic and Forsberg). The economics will not allow it.

So, it is a very tough thing to imagine, but if the deal is there for Thornton, you do it.

Sundin would fetch a lot too.
Exactly, sometimes you need to make the tough decisions. Sundin is a fan favourite but nearing the end of his career. Thorton is about to enter the prime of his. With him and a good Free Agent Aquisition of a top goalie and top defenceman next year, you have the basis of your team for the next 5 years. Sundin will be an UFA in 2 years, if he wants to come back at a reduced rate then, I'm sure they'd welcome him. Of course this is all just speculation, but the point being, I wouldn't even think twice about moving Sundin out if it meant getting Thorton.

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08-09-2005, 10:18 PM
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Jr. can still unload Klee and sign Hamrlik, then the D is

McCabe-Khavanov
Hamrlik- Kaberle
Berg- Pilaf
Belak

Cola starts on Marlies, to keep cap spending down and comes up for injuries only.
McCabe - Kaberle
Khavanov - Hamrlik would be much more reasonable. Khavanov is not a top pairing defenseman.

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08-09-2005, 10:19 PM
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Jr. can still unload Klee and sign Hamrlik, then the D is

McCabe-Khavanov
Hamrlik- Kaberle
Berg- Pilaf
Belak

Cola starts on Marlies, to keep cap spending down and comes up for injuries only.
Why would Khavanov be on the first D line?

McCabe-Hamrlik
Kaberle-Khavanov
Berg/Coly/Pilar/Belak

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08-09-2005, 10:22 PM
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Why would Khavanov be on the first D line?

McCabe-Hamrlik
Kaberle-Khavanov
Berg/Coly/Pilar/Belak
And that wouldn't work because Khavanov-Kaberle is redundant.

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08-09-2005, 10:24 PM
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In 284 NHL games, he was a +26 ... that's a pretty decent stat in my books. Seems like a decent signing to me and I do like the fact that JFJ must know him well from his years with St. Louis.

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08-09-2005, 10:25 PM
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JFJ would also know alot about Khavanov from the years he spent in St. Louis, so there must be something about his guy he likes.
Yup, like Quinn and Penney on:

McAllister
Leeb
Druken
Holden
Lumme
Valk
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08-09-2005, 10:26 PM
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And that wouldn't work because Khavanov-Kaberle is redundant.
In what way?

Both soft offensive D-men?

Either way, I was just trying to say that Khavanov as a #2 D-Man is comical.

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08-09-2005, 10:31 PM
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For what it's worth, he was apparently making $1.7 million with the Blues pre CBA. So we've basically signed him for an amount just under the 24% rollback. If he's a legitimate number 4 type defenceman, it's a good signing IMHO.

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08-09-2005, 10:33 PM
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I don't think 1.25 is too much for a top 4 d-man. I don't see it as anything but a positive signing.

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08-09-2005, 10:34 PM
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In what way?

Both soft offensive D-men?

Either way, I was just trying to say that Khavanov as a #2 D-Man is comical.
Quinn likes pair a physical player with Kabby and apparantly Khavanov is similar to Kabby and Hamrlik has size.

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It Should also be noted that he was good enough to skate for the Russian team in recent World Cup play.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/Wor...06/618095.html

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08-09-2005, 10:35 PM
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Why aren't we looking at Brad Bombardir... so solid defensively. No offensive upside, but still, I think it would be worth it, play him on the third pairing. I'm not sure if he has been signed already.

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08-09-2005, 10:37 PM
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Why aren't we looking at Brad Bombardir... so solid defensively. No offensive upside, but still, I think it would be worth it, play him on the third pairing. I'm not sure if he has been signed already.

Why not go for Brad Luckowich. He is younger and just won the cup.

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08-09-2005, 10:48 PM
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June 1 , 2004

Alex Khavanov Named To Russia's World Cup Of Hockey Squad
World Cup Of Hockey 2004

Team Russia has announced their roster for the upcoming World Cup of Hockey. The defense corps will feature Blues player Alexander Khavanov along with former NHLer Oleg Tverdovsky of the Avangard Omsk of the Russian league, Sergei Gonchar of the Boston Bruins, Danny Markov of the Philadelphia Flyers, Darius Kasparaitis of the New York Rangers, Anton Volchenkov of the Ottawa Senators, Vitaly Vishnevski of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks and Andrei Markov of the Montreal Canadiens.

http://www.stlouisblues.com/news/0304/040601.html

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Why not go for Brad Luckowich. He is younger and just won the cup.
I don't think he is a UFA.

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08-09-2005, 11:04 PM
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Berg and Pilar exist too you know?
McCabe + Kaberle + Berg + Pilar + New Guy + Cola + Klee = 7 and 7 > 6 !!!!!

wow the powers of math are amazing!!

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08-09-2005, 11:07 PM
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I don't think he is a UFA.
Yes he is. Rumours have him heading to the Canucks.

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Both soft offensive D-men?
Basically. I'd prfer a puck mover on each pairing and not have both on one.

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McCabe + Kaberle + Berg + Pilar + New Guy + Cola + Klee = 7 and 7 > 6 !!!!!

wow the powers of math are amazing!!
Yes, which means one of the defensemen you listed is ousted from the starting lineup, which affects them a fair amount.

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1.25 million seems like an average salary, or just about it in the new NHL. Khavanov is an above average defenseman, so we may wish we signed him for less, but overall we didn't overpay or underpay.

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Not sure I like this signing, from every thing I remember of him he is a 5 or 6 man who doesn't play very physical and not to mention he is 33. I think it would have been better to keep Berg who is younger cheaper and more physical. I really hope this doesn't hamper Carlo or Pilar's chances to make the starting line up. I guess we will have to wait and see.

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08-09-2005, 11:16 PM
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Yes, which means one of the defensemen you listed is ousted from the starting lineup, which affects them a fair amount.
The fact is you NEED more than 6 defencemen. Even if all are healthy Pilar and Cola are both lacking experience, and Berg is just not that great, sitting one of them is no crime.

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