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02-19-2014, 04:33 PM
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Kesler for Subban

Ok, so straight-up Kesler for Subban is probably not on. But consider, Kesler has two more years at $5m cap hit while Subban is RFA at the end of this season and is gonna get a huge raise. In a vacuum, Subban obviously has more value but the contract situation adds to Kesler's value and detracts from Subban's. Still, Vancouver would have to add. Possibilities include Tanev, Hansen, Jensen, maybe more than one of those guys. Don't think Vancouver would give up a top prospect and/or center if they're already losing Kesler, and don't want to give up picks either.

Now, why would the Habs want to trade Subban? I have no idea, the guy is freakin awesome, but there's a lot of stupid talk surrounding him for sure, lots of controversy, and he's not under contract past this season. Doesn't make sense to me, but where there's smoke there's fire, right, and maybe the Canucks can take advantage. Kesler is the only guy who really has the value to maybe give them a shot to hook Subban in trade as the centerpiece. Vancouver drafted Subban's brother and has him in the system, and Gillis is good at getting guys signed to good long-term deals.

Normally I'd be like, what is this crazy BS, they would never let Subban get away, but there's weird stuff going on with him and the Habs, seems like, so who knows?

Proposal:

To Vancouver
Subban, 3rd

To Montreal
Kesler, Hansen, Tanev, Jensen

then...

Vancouver signs Subban to max-term deal with the $8m or so that would come off their cap.

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02-19-2014, 04:35 PM
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Ok, so straight-up Kesler for Subban is probably not on. But consider, Kesler has two more years at $5m cap hit while Subban is RFA at the end of this season and is gonna get a huge raise. In a vacuum, Subban obviously has more value but the contract situation adds to Kesler's value and detracts from Subban's. Still, Vancouver would have to add. Possibilities include Tanev, Hansen, Jensen, maybe more than one of those guys. Don't think Vancouver would give up a top prospect and/or center if they're already losing Kesler, and don't want to give up picks either.

Now, why would the Habs want to trade Subban? I have no idea, the guy is freakin awesome, but there's a lot of stupid talk surrounding him for sure, lots of controversy, and he's not under contract past this season. Doesn't make sense to me, but where there's smoke there's fire, right, and maybe the Canucks can take advantage. Kesler is the only guy who really has the value to maybe give them a shot to hook Subban in trade as the centerpiece. Vancouver drafted Subban's brother and has him in the system, and Gillis is good at getting guys signed to good long-term deals.

Normally I'd be like, what is this crazy BS, they would never let Subban get away, but there's weird stuff going on with him and the Habs, seems like, so who knows?

Proposal:

To Vancouver
Subban, 3rd

To Montreal
Kesler, Hansen, Tanev, Jensen

then...

Vancouver signs Subban to max-term deal with the $8m or so that would come off their cap.
Montreal says: NOPE

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it could work, but Habs need Subban

Kesler, Horvat, and a 1st would be a good starting point for Van.

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Maybe Kesler a 1st and another enticing piece is a good basis, but I dont think Montreal would do it.

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I would want kesler + horvat + 1 round + kassian vs subban + 3 round + Thomas or holland

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it could work, but Habs need Subban

Kesler, Horvat, and a 1st would be a good starting point for Van.
Top teir prospect, Out best player, and a 1st for subban?.

Starting point? wtf

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Vancouver really doesn't need to move any forwards for dmen

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it could work, but Habs need Subban

Kesler, Horvat, and a 1st would be a good starting point for Van.
Exactly.Good STARTING point, but not enough for Subban.

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Top teir prospect, Out best player, and a 1st for subban?.

Starting point? wtf
you're asking for Subban. i'd be happy if Subban was traded out of the Atlantic division.

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No way the Habs move PK. His value is worth more to them than the trade market.

PK is a stud!

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Top teir prospect, Out best player, and a 1st for subban?.

Starting point? wtf
Yeah, for a 24 year old Norris winner? That's a starting point.

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Montreal gets ripped off.

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Yeah, Montreal would not do that.

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In this thread both sides say nope, but montreal fans will be a lot ruder and act like its completely preposterous.

It doesn't make sense for either side but don't act like you aren't getting good players offered.

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Montreal isn't trading Subban unless the return is out of this world.

It's not complicated to figure out. Come on boys...

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No way, we have a kesler light in Pleks. If we trade Subban our D goes to bottom of the league pretty swiftly at that.

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Canucks don't need Subban, Montreal doesn't want to trade him, and value is off. 0 for 3, pal.

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Not even close for the Habs

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it could work, but Habs need Subban

Kesler, Horvat, and a 1st would be a good starting point for Van.
I'd want Tanev back, even if the 1st became a second instead. Also I'd want them to take Bourque's salary.

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Top teir prospect, Out best player, and a 1st for subban?.

Starting point? wtf
24 year old Norris winner. Yes.

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Montreal fan here.

I'd do:

Subban
Markov
Desharnain
Leblanc

for

Kesler
Edler
Horvat
Kassian
1st


Huuuuge trade and probably not gonna happen. But I think it would be fair.

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Montreal fan here.

I'd do:

Subban
Markov
Desharnain
Leblanc

for

Kesler
Edler
Horvat
Kassian
1st


Huuuuge trade and probably not gonna happen. But I think it would be fair.
Subban may take huge overpayment to pry, but there's no way we give up that much overpayment for him.

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Top teir prospect, Out best player, and a 1st for subban?.

Starting point? wtf
Henrik Sedin is our best player, and it really isn't that close.

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