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02-26-2014, 10:13 PM
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We realize he is important but he probably gets the most back in a trade(closest to his value). You're not getting much for guys who haven't proved that much so in that way it's smarter ti keep Larsson and Gelinas.


We're not going to be a good team with or without him. It's just about maximizing his value. But sadly I don't see Lou doing it.

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02-26-2014, 10:52 PM
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I think its funny that people think Lou is going to sell. Unless we lose all 4 games before the deadline, he's buying or doing nothing at all.

As for Greene he is super important to this team however (not know what Vancouver needs) i would work a Greene+ for Kesler deal pretty quick. If they need D it will help them now and we need O. We can move Henrique to wing, which some think is better and then have a 1 2 of Kesler and Zajac.

We can take the hit on D right now to add some much needed offense. It makes use much stronger down the middle. Then we have almost everything people say you need to win in the NHL. Being deep down the middle on D and in net. Just a a couple wingers and we might have something.

Kesler is also signed for another 2 years beyond this season.

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02-26-2014, 11:07 PM
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If Barlotta is right about Gaborik I will never mock him again

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02-26-2014, 11:21 PM
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I still doubt Lou will do an in division trade.

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02-26-2014, 11:29 PM
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I still doubt Lou will do an in division trade.
Maybe Lou never realised CBJ changed

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02-27-2014, 12:00 AM
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The division is bigger now so I really don't think it such a big deal. This team needs a pure sniper/playmaker , a Kessler or Gaborik would do just fine over Lokti and JoJo.

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02-27-2014, 12:15 AM
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I don't see why Columbus would trade Gaborik to a team that is competing with them for a playoff spot. But stranger things have happened.

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He isn't re-signing there

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02-27-2014, 12:20 AM
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Yes, but if they trade him to us and then we beat them out of a playoff spot, it looks pretty bad. I would think they would look to move him out west somewhere.

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02-27-2014, 12:21 AM
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It's hard to not trade to an entire division with this alignment, that is a quarter of the league.

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02-27-2014, 12:27 AM
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It's hard to not trade to an entire division with this alignment, that is a quarter of the league.
A lot of teams will do it no doubt. I don't think Lou will though.

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02-27-2014, 12:37 AM
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If you think a bunch of guys in there early 20's, who haven't played a full season of NHL hockey yet, could fill Greene's role on the 1st paring, play 22-25 minutes a night, and not have major problems then your setting yourself for a tremendous disappointment.
Right. Like losing games 1-0 and 2-1 is not a disappointment.

Greene is a nice Dman. He is a remarkable value and is playing the best hockey of his career.

He is totally, and completely replaceable.

Anything we could get back for him in value - and I made it clear that isn't a broken Gaborik, an ancient MSL nor any ufa rental that won't resign --

Any young forward of value we could get back that would add to our long term core would be worth doing.

Edit: and I also made it clear above that there is no reason for us to have to replace a 25minute warrior. Gelinas would eat Greene's 5m of PP time a game. Larsson could eat 5m of PK and the rest of the squad picks up a balance of minutes.

I think making space for Gelinas and Larsson in the lineup alone is a big plus. If Greene brings back a Kesler or something decent to the forward core, I'm happily shipping him off.

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02-27-2014, 02:44 AM
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If we could get an awsome return for Greene I would not have a problem with trading him

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02-27-2014, 06:00 AM
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Trade this years 2nd + Salvador for Kesler! Then sign Stastny over the summer... Book it!

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02-27-2014, 06:20 AM
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]Trade this years 2nd + Salvador for Kesler![/B] Then sign Stastny over the summer... Book it!

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02-27-2014, 06:21 AM
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Trade this years 2nd + Salvador for Kesler! Then sign Stastny over the summer... Book it!

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You don't really think a 2nd + Sal gets us Kesler do you?

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02-27-2014, 06:25 AM
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It's hard to not trade to an entire division with this alignment, that is a quarter of the league.
Well 6/29 teams really...the Isles don't count since they are clear sellers, so it doesn't particularly matter whether teams in-division trade with them (unless it involved a player signed beyond this year). You're not trading in the division other than that...well unless it's the Rangers-Blue Jackets shuttle express.

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02-27-2014, 06:32 AM
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Right. Like losing games 1-0 and 2-1 is not a disappointment.

Greene is a nice Dman. He is a remarkable value and is playing the best hockey of his career.

He is totally, and completely replaceable.

Anything we could get back for him in value - and I made it clear that isn't a broken Gaborik, an ancient MSL nor any ufa rental that won't resign --

Any young forward of value we could get back that would add to our long term core would be worth doing.

Edit: and I also made it clear above that there is no reason for us to have to replace a 25minute warrior. Gelinas would eat Greene's 5m of PP time a game. Larsson could eat 5m of PK and the rest of the squad picks up a balance of minutes.

I think making space for Gelinas and Larsson in the lineup alone is a big plus. If Greene brings back a Kesler or something decent to the forward core, I'm happily shipping him off.
You don't 'make space' for Gelinas and Larsson by trading Andy Greene. Not unless as others have said you get a stud under-30 forward in the deal. Besides you're really underestimating this coach's aversion to giving Gelinas and Larsson minutes. You trade Greene and this is what special teams will look like:

PP point - Zidlicky-Harrold, Brunner-Merrill PK - Sal-Fayne, Volch-Harrold/Merrill

Maybe you'll get Gelinas back on the PP as it is now since the PP's struggled mightily without him though, and Larsson can't seem to stay on the ice this year anyway. And next year you have to deal with the Zidlicky and Fayne contracts. Then you'll have room for Larsson and Gelinas but you've also cleaned out another vet defenseman or two.

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02-27-2014, 06:38 AM
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Trade this years 2nd + Salvador for Kesler! Then sign Stastny over the summer... Book it!

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This would be so ****ing awesome. Salvador + 2nd for Kesler might be too less anyways...but it would be nice.
And Stastny would be just perfect. I hope Lou does this!!!

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02-27-2014, 06:49 AM
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You don't really think a 2nd + Sal gets us Kesler do you?
No I don't at all, thought I threw enough sarcasm in there to get that point across lol! A guy can dream can't he!

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02-27-2014, 06:55 AM
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I don't know where to put this so I guess I will put it here, Matt Loughlin's parents passed away two days apart.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/myc...144&fhid=27086

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Trade this years 2nd + Salvador for Kesler! Then sign Stastny over the summer... Book it!

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02-27-2014, 07:54 AM
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Trade this years 2nd + Salvador for Kesler! Then sign Stastny over the summer... Book it!

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Too much, I'd offer a 4th and Salvador and I'd expect a pick coming back.

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Wait, Gaborik? What? Huh?

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I don't know where to put this so I guess I will put it here, Matt Loughlin's parents passed away two days apart.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/myc...144&fhid=27086
And they were born just 1 day apart in 1934.. amazing how that happens

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