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06-04-2014, 03:56 PM
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LOL when did he do well? He handles the puck like it is a grenade and seldome makes the smart play and is more pften than not out of position. He likes to try and make the big hit too often and takes himself out of position not good things for a stay at home D man.
So why would SJ trade Thornton to us for a bust?

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There's nothing "very rare" about Tinordi's physicality. As for his size, he loses a lot of 1 on 1 battles along the boards... and not always against physically imposing players.

When I look at Tinordi, I see a guy with no mean streak, who reminds me of Hal Gill without the PK prowess. He's still young and can change that, but I have a hard time being excited about him.
This is why I see

I have high hopes though and he certainly has the ceiling, but I'm not all that optimistic

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06-04-2014, 04:03 PM
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LOL when did he do well? He handles the puck like it is a grenade and seldome makes the smart play and is more pften than not out of position. He likes to try and make the big hit too often and takes himself out of position not good things for a stay at home D man.
Does anyone seriously interact with you about Tinordi anymore?

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06-04-2014, 04:13 PM
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What more do you guys want him to do?

He was there on opening day and broke Carter Ashton's nose when things were getting out of hand.

When he came back he immediately took on Kyle Clifford when the Habs were playing with little emotion, and got the team rolling. Many players and even management pointed to that fight as a spark.

When Lars Eller got railroaded by that punk Raffi Torres, Tinordi immediately issued a beating and put Torres out for several weeks.

Danny Briere took a hard hit from Gryba, and Tinordi made sure that Gryba knew you couldn't be taking runs at smaller guys.

He played 22 games and he looked good a great deal of the time. He knows that he has a role to play as a physical defenseman, and that's what he does... He hits and he protects his teammates. He looked bad in the Columbus game where he gave up the winning goal, and he owned the mistake.... He had some growing pains, but you always will with a big, unpolished guy...

He's exactly what you want back there on the blueline... He's not going to score you a ton of points, but he's going to be incredibly tough to play against and he'll make sure that the guys on the ice are protected.

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06-04-2014, 04:17 PM
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and LOL at those who think Tinordi is the representation of a guy who has a "mean streak". And while he's already significantly faster than Gill, he has shown nothing more in his NHL stints so far.


He gave Gleason a concussion if I remember correctly.

Tinordi does have a mean streak and he certainly has delivered some big hits in his short career so far.

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06-04-2014, 04:22 PM
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He gave Gleason a concussion if I remember correctly.

Tinordi does have a mean streak and he certainly has delivered some big hits in his short career so far.
A mean streak has little to do with the ability to fight. It's about much more than that... Especially how scared you make your opponents when you battle against them along the boards. Hell, I can remember an example where D'Agostini came out of the board easily after a one on one battle against Tinordi.

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06-04-2014, 04:27 PM
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A mean streak has little to do with the ability to fight. It's about much more than that... Especially how scared you make your opponents when you battle against them along the boards. Hell, I can remember an example where D'Agostini came out of the board easily after a one on one battle against Tinordi.
So, beating up people and delivering big hits have little to do with having a mean streak, eh? Remember Komisarek? He was crosschecking everyone in sight but he was terrible at everything else. And your example... I mean, every D is going to get beat at some point. Tinordi is still learning and his physicality is certainly one of his forces.

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Can't wait for Tinordi to make the full time jump to the habs. He is going to be a good one. I think a Tinordi-Subban pairing in the future will be one of the better ones.

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So, beating up people and delivering big hits have little to do with having a mean streak, eh? Remember Komisarek? He was crosschecking everyone in sight but he was terrible at everything else. And your example... I mean, every D is going to get beat at some point. Tinordi is still learning and his physicality is certainly one of his forces.
I just don't see him winning nearly enough board battles for a guy of his style to say he's there, and that he's a keep-at-all-cost asset. He's a nice asset to have, but at this point, pencilling his name in next season's lineup is premature and hopeful.

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A mean streak has little to do with the ability to fight. It's about much more than that... Especially how scared you make your opponents when you battle against them along the boards. Hell, I can remember an example where D'Agostini came out of the board easily after a one on one battle against Tinordi.
I can remember times when David Desharnais won pucks cleanly from Zdeno Chara. I can remember times when our players have knocked him flat on his ass. Your point?

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I just don't see him winning nearly enough board battles for a guy of his style to say he's there, and that he's a keep-at-all-cost asset. He's a nice asset to have, but at this point, pencilling his name in next season's lineup is premature and hopeful.
Of course, his decisions and hockey sense need some work. But it's the NHL and he'll learn. I'm quite optimistic on Tinordi but he sure isn't a lock on this team next year.

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I hope that our DG thinks for a long time before considering trading away a defenseman that's 6'6 and has yet to be given a chance to show his true potential. I'd get rid of Gorges and Emelin way before I even think of parting ways with Jarred.

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He's ****ing 22 y/o guys, that's still young for a defenseman. I think he'll develop just fine.

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KomiSarek took a while before he started to play better and more steady. And yes, hecWAS a hell of a defenceman for a time. Until Lucic? (just making a comparison here)

I can't believe the people here who are so hard on Tinordi. Just ridiculous. This team needs to commit to playing the young guys this year if they're ever going to develop them

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He's ****ing 22 y/o guys, that's still young for a defenseman. I think he'll develop just fine.
Might want to work on your phrasing.

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The power of the comma lol

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I wish I made a compilation of his pre-season. He showed a lot of upside and was rattling opponents physically while showing off his skating being above average especially with his size. Of course it didn't follow through to regular season enough for him to stay with the big club but the upside was there. He does make bone head big hit attempt but that's also something that can be improved with experience. Kinda funny people say he makes too many failed big hit attempts while trying to say he doesn't have mean streak. He improved his fighting a lot and had 6 NHL fights (2 pre-season, 4 regular season) in less than 30 games.

You never saw Gill do this:

Kid's got more upside than people give him credit for, his skating is impressive for a big man.

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am i the only one who was impressed with his NHL stints save the really bad giveaways?

He moves the puck far better than I ever thought he would already and hasn't even played a full season yet.

I remember quite well Pronger taking awhile to find his game once he cracked the bigs. Huge D men almost always do. It's been said and shown a million times over.

Tinordi is damn near untradeable because his ceiling is hard to gage. We don't have the most physical D core or prospects either. You're a perennial contender when you have a D corps with PK and what Tinordi and NB can become.

You just don't trade young D men who are as big and mobile as Tinordi is when they're still so far away from their potential. My god people.

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...a future top pairing of Tinordi - Subban should make every Habs fan giddy with delight...Tinordi looked ready this year and he should have been in our Top 6 this entire playoff run...

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am i the only one who was impressed with his NHL stints save the really bad giveaways?

He moves the puck far better than I ever thought he would already and hasn't even played a full season yet.

I remember quite well Pronger taking awhile to find his game once he cracked the bigs. Huge D men almost always do. It's been said and shown a million times over.

Tinordi is damn near untradeable because his ceiling is hard to gage. We don't have the most physical D core or prospects either. You're a perennial contender when you have a D corps with PK and what Tinordi and NB can become.

You just don't trade young D men who are as big and mobile as Tinordi is when they're still so far away from their potential. My god people.
I wouldn't be against trading Tinordi if we got an impossible to turn down offer, my only issue is that I doubt holds Tinordi holds very much in the way of trade value, at least not enough to justify trading him. I believe he has more value on our team than he could realistically fetch in a trade at this point in his career and as such I do not think we should trade him.

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Does anyone seriously interact with you about Tinordi anymore?
Well you just did

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am i the only one who was impressed with his NHL stints save the really bad giveaways?
He moves the puck far better than I ever thought he would already and hasn't even played a full season yet.
I remember quite well Chris Pronger taking awhile to find his game once he cracked the bigs. Huge D men almost always do. It's been said and shown a million times over.
Tinordi is damn near untradeable because his ceiling is hard to gage. We don't have the most physical D core or prospects either. You're a perennial contender when you have a D corps with PK and what Tinordi and NB can become.

You just don't trade young D men who are as big and mobile as Tinordi is when they're still so far away from their potential. My god people.

Thank-you. Thank-you. Thank-you.
And, glad you also used Pronger as an example for development (size gallor, mean streak, time for proper development/confidence...patience, so much potential,etc). Tinordi's ceiling is VERY HIGH, imo. Some Hab fans forget his coast-to-coast (in AHL)...not many 6'7 dmen could do that (not expecting that on a regular basis!!lol!!, just showing off his skating/potential!). That said...he will be brought up as a defensive dman (shutdown defensive tasks, PK,etc), and later...he will fully develop into (hopefully) a solid two-way shutdown dman (will get PP later once full confidence is there,etc). You don't trade that...never! Are you kidding me? Yup...Subban, Price, and Tinordi give us reason to hope we can win the CUP one day with strong defense.


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I wouldn't be against trading Tinordi if we got an impossible to turn down offer, my only issue is that I doubt holds Tinordi holds very much in the way of trade value, at least not enough to justify trading him. I believe he has more value on our team than he could realistically fetch in a trade at this point in his career and as such I do not think we should trade him.
Been waiting so long for a mobile tall/huge dman (6'6-6'7 and mobile/good skater) like J.Tinordi. Still can't believe he's a Hab!!! I would be so furious IF he were traded. I hope Tinordi is a Hab for a long long time. I really see Subban, Price, and J.Tinordi lifting a CUP as Habs.

Not comparing J.Tinordi to Chris Pronger (also 6'6+), but...Tinordi is the closest thing to C.Pronger we have drafted since a long time (since Robinson or Serge Savard). With Tinordi...we're so much bigger/taller, meaner...Tinordi will be a huge monster playoff shutdown dman...just give him time to fully develop and gain more and more confidence. Full potential...mean/warrior shutdown defensive dman to a two-way dman.


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...a future top pairing of Tinordi - Subban should make every Habs fan giddy with delight...Tinordi looked ready this year and he should have been in our Top 6 this entire playoff run...
I definitely see this in the future (and vicious players won't constantly slash or try to decapitate Subban as often with J.Tinordi by his side), or else...you can balance out the lines by separating Tinordi and Subban. 2014-2015 season, as one example...I would like to see Tinordi-Weaver for 20-30games+.


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Why not? (do not trade Tinordi)
Why not trade McDonagh? Because it will hurt for awhile.
Trading Tinordi will hurt even more...trust me.
Tinordi is a keeper for a long long time.
When is the last time we had a 6'6 - 6'7 dman with so much potential?

I would be so pissed off if Tinordi was drafted by the Bruins, Flyers or Leafs.
We have Tinordi...let's keep it this way.


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gonna make us forget we traded mcdonagh.....DO....NOT.....TRADE....HIM!!!
Exactly. Price, PK Subban, Tinordi, Beaulieu.......give me so much hope. So much.


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