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03-01-2014, 02:02 AM
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This is why it doesn't affect me.

For everyone one person like that, seeing what you guys say MORE than make up for that.

Y'all are awesome.

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you can't expect everyone to have a significant change in the worldview. there are people alive today who were born before women's suffrage.

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Yes.

It was online, so certainly not as bad, but it's still disappointing.

I went on the conservative sub...
Well, if we're playing the "retracing your steps to see what went wrong" game, I'd say this is probably the first mistake you made...

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03-01-2014, 12:38 PM
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On a completely unrelated note...


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03-01-2014, 12:53 PM
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Well, if we're playing the "retracing your steps to see what went wrong" game, I'd say this is probably the first mistake you made...
Agreed.

In my defensive though, there a lot of conservatives that DONT have those views, as indicated by the fact that my comment was voted positively and his was negatively.

The main issue was he was a mod.

But all is well.

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I'm really sour after reading that. Some ****ing people

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You don't always see how much hatred there is out there until you visit anonymous online forums and people can post **** they would not necessarily say face to face. I used to debate with Holocaust deniers when the Internet first came around. Online message boards are the perfect forum for hate groups to spread their message.

The world is changing, but change is slow. I've had the "sometimes kids have two mommies or two daddies" talk with my daughter, and she did not bat and eye. Hatred is something that is learned.

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On a completely unrelated note...

Rowan Atkinson?

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Rowan Atkinson?
Yes. From the Black Adder army years.

More just how I'm feeling now with school close to wrapping up and wishing I'd gone anywhere but Cornwall.

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Yes.

It was online, so certainly not as bad, but it's still disappointing.

I went on the conservative sub of another internet website after the Texas Marriage thing, and saw a homophobic comment about it, and called them out for being a bigot. This site uses upvotes, and he was downvoted a lot and I was upvoted a lot. I was then banned. I found out the guy was a mod. I tried to be nice because you never know when you can change someone's mind, and I got these replies.
The irony that he's calling you out for an 'ad hominem' attack while he's basically calling you a sexual deviant.

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Yes. From the Black Adder army years.

More just how I'm feeling now with school close to wrapping up and wishing I'd gone anywhere but Cornwall.
Transfer to Kingston.

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Ah, my student union demonstrating why most students don't take it seriously...

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I can't take Penelope Cruz seriously as an actress.

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Seriously crazy and scary crap happening in Ukraine right now...

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Transfer to Kingston.
Too late. Almost done. The time for any transfer would have been during the summer. I gutted it out and in some aspects it was worthwhile (had a great placement). Really, it is what you make of it.

There are some great people here but I'm just strung right the heck out and can't help but think how much easier I might have made it for myself had I not been so stubborn and transferred earlier.

Between the fools I suffer with everyday in class and a college that could not give two ***** about my program, I'm done.

I may double down at a Carleton. Last resort. This stuff ain't cheap. At least I have a shot at a job after this.

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Ah, my student union demonstrating why most students don't take it seriously...
Ha! Yours too eh?

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Seriously crazy and scary crap happening in Ukraine right now...
Not sure what to make of that. The revolutionary movement's somewhat liberal use of the SS symbol and Nazi slogans are not exactly endearing. Then there's Russia being Russia.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Ukraine eventually split in two, it is currently a ver divided country. Just looking at the results of the last presidential election (2010) shows that (all maps have the current governing pro-Russia party in blue)



Or the previous in 04



the 2012 parliamentary one is harder to see, but there is still a huge Party of Regions block in the east



07 parliamentary



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Seriously crazy and scary crap happening in Ukraine right now...
Seriously.

Theoretically, with the whole UN Security Council agreement thing, it's scary.

Russia has the power of veto. So if the US ever did to override the UNSC and intervene, would that not potential ignite something between them?

If the US just ignores it, then Ukraine is screwed.

I'll defer to the polisci guys here, but is this not somewhat similar to the initial aggressions the Germans made in the 1930s?

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03-01-2014, 02:51 PM
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Have the Russians really annexed the Crimea yet? Not to my knowledge. Danger if they do is that they likely won't stop just there. There's been a lot of troop movement and Putin just got approval from Duma this morning for use of force. To what end? ??

UNSC is worthless, IMO. Not sure what the US can do about anything.

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Ha! Yours too eh?
Yeah. Some of the male members of the federation made **** jokes about the student president on FB chat, and that FB conversation was made public.

Most of the guys involved are threatening legal action against the student president for 'bringing up a private conversation at a board meeting.'

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Seriously.

Theoretically, with the whole UN Security Council agreement thing, it's scary.

Russia has the power of veto. So if the US ever did to override the UNSC and intervene, would that not potential ignite something between them?

If the US just ignores it, then Ukraine is screwed.

I'll defer to the polisci guys here, but is this not somewhat similar to the initial aggressions the Germans made in the 1930s?
It's similar; the Russian 'invasion' is being framed as providing security for ethnic Russians in the country, and often involve claims that this minority is persecuted.

The major difference is that Russia, unlike Germany, is not outright demanding anything politically or looking at annexation as an end goal, necessarily. Germany would usually demand a referendum and a 'right of self-determination' for the people of that territory, which ostensibly meant that territory would be annexed by Germany.

Russia seems content to intervene and then withdraw at the end of the violence (2008 in Georgia). The primary Russian motive is to ward off NATO's expansion eastward. The Russian logic is that, if they invade these countries before they can join NATO, NATO will be wary of admitting them in because the Western countries don't want to be legally bound to come to their defence (don't want a repeat of WWI, where the major powers go to war because of the actions of a minor power).


On the point of the UNSC: it is unlikely that the US tries to intervene militarily or tries to pass something significant through the UNSC. The US is generally disinterested in war with Russia.
They'll do the same thing that they did in Georgia in 2008; condemn the Russians and then send humanitarian aid using military aircraft. NATO may increase its naval presence in the Black Sea (Bulgaria, Romania, and Turkey are NATO countries, Georgia is a nearby ally) until the Russians back down.


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03-01-2014, 03:46 PM
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Thanks CH that was a good rundown.

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Agreed. Nice work, CH.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Ukraine eventually split in two, it is currently a ver divided country. Just looking at the results of the last presidential election (2010) shows that (all maps have the current governing pro-Russia party in blue)
Only 17% of the country identifies as Russian. The influence of ethnic Russians and Russian parties is disproportionately high. I doubt the country gets divided; the Russians in the Ukraine are pretty reactionary at the moment; they are afraid the radical Ukrainian nationalists will seize power. In all likelihood, a moderate party emerges as the government and those fears subside.

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Yeah. Some of the male members of the federation made **** jokes about the student president on FB chat, and that FB conversation was made public.

Most of the guys involved are threatening legal action against the student president for 'bringing up a private conversation at a board meeting.'
Yeah that's a student union problem for you.

We've had our share of similar incidents all year. Complete circus.

We've also got some potentially serious financial irregularities the veracity of which has yet to be established. Hooray! The lawyers are just crawling over this place.

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What bothers me in the Ukraine debacle is its similarity to what happened in Egypt: like it or not, both governments (Morsi's and Yanukovych's, neither that I necessarily like mind you) were democratically elected, and they were both ousted by force.

Western media has given us mostly a one-sided view of what's happening in Ukraine. If you were a supporter of Yanukovych though it wouldn't be hard to find good justifications for his actions, including some of the repression (even though of course violence is never an answer).


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Actually, now that I've read the Russian statements, it looks like they are prepared to integrate the Crimea into the Russian federation if the Crimea chooses to join Russia.


And on an unrelated note - just beat Norway 11-3 with Team Canada in NHL 14. PK Subban was -3

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