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03-03-2014, 05:43 PM
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Leafs/Nucks (Not Kesler, Luongo Etc)

Leafs might need a RH d-man.

I don't quite get the Leaf's cap situation so this may need adjustment:

To Toronto:

Bieksa + Dalpe

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Gardiner + Ashton + 2nd Round Pick 2015 changes to 2015 1st if Leafs win two combined playoff rounds in 2014 or 2015.

Also wasn't quite sure on where Ashton is fitting in right now...

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Tanev more likely which sucks for us as he's Vancouver's most reliable Defender.

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Tanev more likely which sucks for us as he's Vancouver's most reliable Defender.
Due to cap? Problem is most people don't seem to think Tanev as his stats don't jump out.

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Leafs might need a RH d-man.

I don't quite get the Leaf's cap situation so this may need adjustment:

To Toronto:

Bieksa + Dalpe

for

Gardiner + Ashton + 2nd Round Pick 2015 changes to 2015 1st if Leafs win two combined playoff rounds in 2014 or 2015.

Also wasn't quite sure on where Ashton is fitting in right now...
We don't have the cap room to do this...and I like Bieksa.

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Due to cap? Problem is most people don't seem to think Tanev as his stats don't jump out.
I would love Tanev. You could replace Bieksa with Tanev and mak the pick purely a 2nd and I do it

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I'd do it but wouldn't mind Kulemin coming back to give them some room to do it.

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Bieksa + Dalpe ($5.15 mil)

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Gardiner + Kulemin + 2nd Round Pick 2015 changes to 2015 1st if Leafs win two combined playoff rounds in 2014 or 2015. ($3.7 mil)

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Bieksa isn't waiving, he lives in Vancouver year around its his home, I think there's a better chance Hamhuis waives (unlikely)

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03-03-2014, 05:58 PM
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Bieksa isn't waiving, he lives in Vancouver year around its his home, I think there's a better chance Hamhuis waives (unlikely)
No he doesn't ...

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A deal around Tanev / Gardiner (extras where necessary) is very interesting / intriguing.

Both sides seem to love "their" guy and the two are quite different. Gardiner is supposed to be the one with some offensive upside while Tanev is a very steady dman who rarely makes mistakes.

Hadn't thought of something like this, nor do i know if that's what either team is after, though i could see Toronto being interested due to having Rielly as well.

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I would do this from a Leafs perspective but I don't think they have a 2nd rounder. One was dealt for Bolland (2014) and the other was dealt for Holland (conditional 2015, conditions were met when Holland suited up for his 25th game this year).

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I would do this from a Leafs perspective but I don't think they have a 2nd rounder. One was dealt for Bolland (2014) and the other was dealt for Holland (conditional 2015, conditions were met when Holland suited up for his 25th game this year).
Oh god damn Nonis and Burke and their trading of 2nd rounders all over...! I should have known.

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I could be okay with this. Although I have zero interest in Ashton.

Is Andreas Johnson available in any way?

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A deal around Tanev / Gardiner (extras where necessary) is very interesting / intriguing.

Both sides seem to love "their" guy and the two are quite different. Gardiner is supposed to be the one with some offensive upside while Tanev is a very steady dman who rarely makes mistakes.

Hadn't thought of something like this, nor do i know if that's what either team is after, though i could see Toronto being interested due to having Rielly as well.
It's funny that you mention how trading them for one another would be like getting a complete opposite player (in terms of playing style) but of similar value, because I've always been thinking if Vancouver could acquire Gardiner or Toronto to acquire Tanev. Those two would be an awesome pairing.

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Bieksa + Schroeder + 2nd 2014 for Lupul + Gauthier + 1st 2014

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Bieksa + Schroeder + 2nd 2014 for Lupul + Gauthier + 1st 2014
Make it easy. Lupul for Bieksa.

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Make it easy. Lupul for Bieksa.
What would have to be added to get Gardiner as well? Would be reluctant on Lupul for Bieksa straight up.

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Make it easy. Lupul for Bieksa.
Not a chance from Toronto's standpoint.

IF the Leafs are trading anyone off the roster for Bieksa, it would be Franson.

@ the OP -- it's important to remember that while we'd prefer a right handed defenceman, if the body going out is Gardiner, the preference actually becomes a lefty.

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What would have to be added to get Gardiner as well? Would be reluctant on Lupul for Bieksa straight up.
Vancouver would have to add a 1st round pick + prospect to get Jake. Just IMO

Easy no to OP's proposal, btw.

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I could be okay with this. Although I have zero interest in Ashton.

Is Andreas Johnson available in any way?
You sure?

He's 6'3, 215, hits fights, and has offensive potential. 13 goals in 16 ahl games this year.

A.Johnson is easily available.

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You sure?

He's 6'3, 215, hits fights, and has offensive potential. 13 goals in 16 ahl games this year.

A.Johnson is easily available.
I'm just not a fan. I think he's potentially a good 3rd liner but we have a lot of potential 3rd liners.

I'd do Bieksa for Gardiner + A. Johnson + mid pick.

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I'm just not a fan. I think he's potentially a good 3rd liner but we have a lot of potential 3rd liners.

I'd do Bieksa for Gardiner + A. Johnson + mid pick.
I doubt anyone will believe me but my buddy is good friends with Bieksa and he DOESN'T want to leave Vancouver as he and his family love it there. I thought he'd be interested in Toronto because he's from southern Ontario but it just isn't the case.

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I'm just not a fan. I think he's potentially a good 3rd liner but we have a lot of potential 3rd liners.

I'd do Bieksa for Gardiner + A. Johnson + mid pick.
He won't waive for TO.

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I doubt anyone will believe me but my buddy is good friends with Bieksa and he DOESN'T want to leave Vancouver as he and his family love it there. I thought he'd be interested in Toronto because he's from southern Ontario but it just isn't the case.
Fair enough.

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We don't have any 2nd. 2014 2nd belongs to Anaheim for Holland and 2015 belongs to LA for Bernier.

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