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Colorado getting lots of calls on Paul Stastny

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03-04-2014, 04:07 PM
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It's tough to find WOWY stats from before this year. Do you know any sites that have them?
Yes, my mind and eyes. He played with Porter, Galiardi, Jones, Hejduk Yip, and Stewart during the Avs lottery years. I don't think any of those players are currently top line wingers.

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03-04-2014, 04:08 PM
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It's tough to find WOWY stats from before this year. Do you know any sites that have them?
Actually watching games helps...

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Not true, look at his WOWY stats and then you'll see what I mean. His linemates are varied, but the guy he plays most with is Landeskog followed by Mackinnon, McGinn and Duchene.
this year. If you want take his worse performances in previous years into discussion, you should take his linemates back then into account as well. He did not play with Landeskog regularly up until this year, neither MacKinnon, obviously.

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I was just curious on his value to Avalanche fans.

If I had to guess, Keith Yandle maybe?
Thats the idea. I would prefer a more 2 way guy rather than a more offensive guy. But thats the "type" of move I would want the avs to do. If they cant find that (highly unlikely), then re-sign him, and find the solution another way.

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He is about to pass 50 points just this season and is on pace to hit close to 70. He's scored 20 goals every year besides the lockout and his injury plagued season. He's only failed to hit ~60 points once (53 in 79) and twice if you include last year where the entire team sucked.
If by close to 70 you mean 62 points, then yeah, thats closer to 70 then it is to zero, but that isnt close to 70.


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I don't think Dater knows anything but common sense should suggest Avs are getting a lot of calls on Stastny. He's an excellent two-way center (20th in center scoring at the moment) without an extension in place.

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I don't see the Avs trading him. They are looking good for the playoffs and he's been a good contributor. I think they would rather keep him for their playoff run and try to resign him in the off season after a pretty good season for both player and team.

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03-04-2014, 04:17 PM
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If by close to 70 you mean 62 points, then yeah, thats closer to 70 then it is to zero, but that isnt close to 70.
My bad, I used 82 games instead of whatever he'll hit due to injury. He's on pace to get close to 70 over a full season. Trying to keep an eye on the deadline stuff and still do work is straining me mentally, haha.

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Thats not what I mean.

Statistically, he's playing better.

Stylistically, visually, the guy hasnt changed a bit. His style of play is still as it always was. The difference: A) a coach with a vision, and one that allows his offensive players to be creative. B) No David Jones. C) Linemates who compliment his style of play.

Obviously, nothing is definitive. I cant prove anything. But I can objectively look at what has transpired over his career and see that he only had struggling years when Jones was his primary winger.
At the end of the day, very few players change the way the play from a stylistic or visual perspective... especially with how much experience Stastny has.

The simple fact is -- he's playing better this year. You can point to the coach, you can point to his linemates, you can point to a career rejuventation, you can point to a contract year. All we know at this point, he's playing substantially better this year than he has in the past.

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Statsny is a great player and the Avs would be very lucky to keep him. However, if he's not dealt, there really is no other (dealable) player on the roster who's going to be able to fetch them a #2 d-man which is what they badly need.

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He's been on pace for 60+ for 6 of his seasons including this one. That leaves just two where he wasn't. MOD
So by that rational, if he plays 1 game and gets 2 points he is on pace for 160 points. Problem is he only played one game, therefore he is a 2 point player. On pace for 60+ and actually scoring 60+ points are 2 different things.

He is not a 60 point player in the last 5 years. Period. End of story.

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At the end of the day, very few players change the way the play from a stylistic or visual perspective... especially with how much experience Stastny has.

The simple fact is -- he's playing better this year. You can point to the coach, you can point to his linemates, you can point to a career rejuventation, you can point to a contract year. All we know at this point, he's playing substantially better this year than he has in the past.
Agreed.

Im just pointing to linemates.

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You're not even responding to what people are posting. Read again. He's talking about previous seasons. Yip and winnik and Jones were so bad they aren't on the team anymore and you bring up the guys he's played with This season. Where he's on pace for 70pts. And you claim he's a 50pt player? Someone ban this guy already.
Except he isn't, so there goes your arguement

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Except he isn't, so there goes your arguement
On pace for 63 is closer to 70 than it is to 50.

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So by that rational, if he plays 1 game and gets 2 points he is on pace for 160 points. Problem is he only played one game, therefore he is a 2 point player. On pace for 60+ and actually scoring 60+ points are 2 different things.

He is not a 60 point player in the last 5 years. Period. End of story.
So. Last couple of years Crosby was not a 60pt player to you?

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Except he isn't, so there goes your arguement
Over 82 games he's on pace for 68.5 points. Close enough not to matter. Definitely closer to that than 50points.

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Why do we really keep this going?

Avs fans know how valuable is Stastny and other fans hate him, so we'll keep him and keep winning, that's all.

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Double Dion just so you know talking down about Stastny isn't going to lessen his value so the Leafs can trade for him.

All Avs fans are happy with him so we'll just keep our 3rd line center and you can keep your 10 point, -7 Clarkson. It's a win-win.

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lmao cannot believe stastny is being compared to 7 year clarkson
id take stastny at 10 mill a year over clarkson for what he makes

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So by that rational, if he plays 1 game and gets 2 points he is on pace for 160 points. Problem is he only played one game, therefore he is a 2 point player. On pace for 60+ and actually scoring 60+ points are 2 different things.

He is not a 60 point player in the last 5 years. Period. End of story.
2009-2010 he scored 79 pts. Now, my math might be wrong, but 2010 was less than 5 years ago, right?

Guess the story isn't actually over after all...

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Double Dion just so you know talking down about Stastny isn't going to lessen his value so the Leafs can trade for him.

All Avs fans are happy with him so we'll just keep our 3rd line center and you can keep your 10 point, -7 Clarkson. It's a win-win.
Objectively... if that was his intention, how do you propose the Leafs clear $6m+ in cap space to acquire him? Plus, last i checked, Joe Sakic isn't disguised as a poster on this board.

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2009-2010 he scored 79 pts. Now, my math might be wrong, but 2010 was less than 5 years ago, right?

Guess the story isn't actually over after all...
Ha I also forgot that wasn't that long ago.

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How possible is it for Colorado to keep O'Reilly and Stastny?
How isn't it? Penguins are rumored to be going after Kesler hard and they have Crosby and Malkin at center

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Objectively... if that was his intention, how do you propose the Leafs clear $6m+ in cap space to acquire him? Plus, last i checked, Joe Sakic isn't disguised as a poster on this board.
Well I highly doubt the trade would be Stastny for draft picks

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To me, he's a 3rd liner on a good team, 2nd liner on a bad one. The Avs are an above average team so he's a 3rd liner IMO. And yes, the advanced stats bear out over the past 4 or 5 seasons that Clarkson is a better defensive player. If Stastny was a good defensive player he'd be on the PK. He plays 30 seconds of PK per game or 15th on the team. It looks like Patrick Roy agrees with me.
You would be wrong. The Blackhawks would use him as a 2nd line center and they're the furthest thing from a bad team unless you remove their cup.

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