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08-12-2005, 11:38 AM
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Flames sign Warrener to four year deal

As per Fan960, and ESPN's EJ Radek.

Four years, $9.4 million.

edit: slightly off on $.


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http://www.calgaryflames.com/cgi-bin...num=0000001102

Title: FLAMES SIGN DEFENCEMAN RHETT WARRENER TO MULTI-YEAR DEAL
Date: August 12, 2005
FLAMES SIGN DEFENCEMAN RHETT WARRENER TO MULTI-YEAR DEAL

For Immediate Release
Friday, August 12, 2005

Calgary, AB - Calgary Flames General Manager and Head Coach Darryl Sutter announced today the signing of defenceman Rhett Warrener. As per club policy, terms and conditions of the agreement were not disclosed.

RHETT WARRENER, a 6’2” 215 lbs. rearguard from Shaunavon, SK played in 77 games with the Flames during the 2003-04 season posting 17 points (3 goals, 14 assists) and 97 penalty minutes. In 560 NHL career games the 29 year-old has posted 86 points (16 goals, 70 assists) and 757 penalty minutes.

Warrener played in 24 games with the Flames during the 2004 playoffs averaging 24:06 minutes of ice-time per-game (fourth most on the Flames). The ’04 playoffs was Warrener’s third time playing in the Stanley Cup Finals having also reached the finals with Florida in 1996 and Buffalo in 1999. In 88 NHL career playoff games Warrener has collected eight points (1 goal, 7 assists) and 44 penalty minutes.

Calgary acquired Warrener from the Buffalo Sabres along with Steve Reinprecht on July 3, 2003 in exchange for Steve Begin and Chris Drury. Warrener was the Florida Panthers’ second choice, 27th overall, in the 1994 NHL Entry Draft.

POSITION: D SHOOTS: Right
BORN: Shaunavon, SK (January 27, 1976)
HEIGHT: 6’2” WEIGHT: 215 lbs.
DRAFTED: Florida - second round, 27th overall, in the 1994 Entry Draft
HOW ACQUIRED: From the Buffalo Sabres along with Steve Reinprecht on July 3, 2003 in exchange for Steve Begin and Chris Drury

Traded to BUF by FLA with FLA’s 5th round choice (Ryan Miller) in 1999 Entry Draft for Mike Wilson, Mar. 23, 1999. Traded to CGY by BUF with Steve Reinprecht for Chris Drury and Steve Begin, July 3, 2003.

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$2.4 per year for Rhett Warrener?

Seems a little high for me, but he's a dependable, hard-working, quality defenseman who brings alot of leadership and stability to an otherwise young defense core.

I would've expected him in the $1.5 M range, TBH.

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Nice deal.

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Excellent. Looks like almost everyone is signed now who's left?

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Excellent. Looks like almost everyone is signed now who's left?
Kobasew, Lombardi, and Eric Nystrom.

As for the Warrener signing, it's a little bit on the high side. But I guess that's what you should expect from a four year deal.

Works for me I guess.

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E.J. Hradek reported the Warrener signing on his blog last night

4 years/$9.4 million-$1.9 million the first year and $2.5 million in each of the remaining 3 years

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This signing looks a little high to me but it's nothing that will financially handicap the Flames in the future. They've managed to get nearly their entire core locked down for a number of years, very nice job by Sutter...

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$2.4 per year for Rhett Warrener?

Seems a little high for me, but he's a dependable, hard-working, quality defenseman who brings alot of leadership and stability to an otherwise young defense core.

I would've expected him in the $1.5 M range, TBH.
Hradek thought the deal was a little high.He wrote "a lot of money and a lot of years in the new cap system"

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Out of curiosity, early reports listed that the Flames intented to have a budget somewhere around the 29-31 million range. It appears that they are now up to 34 million with Kobasew and Lombardi still to sign. Have they decided to open the pockets a bit and go with a much higher budget?

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$2.35 mil for Warrener? I like Warrener, but he's Calgary's 4th d-man IMO, and if Phaneur develops as planned, he'll remain Calgary's 4th d-man for many years. I would've expected at max $2 mil per for Warrener, but I guess since he's not far from UFA status Calgary had to overpay a bit rather then some team overpay a lot when he becomes a UFA.

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Bit highish but nothing major, ok deal.

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They may regret this in year four, but for now they have a team that has shown to be able to compete for the Cup. You need to keep that kind of team together.

I think this is a better signing than Rathje or Malakhov.

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Out of curiosity, early reports listed that the Flames intented to have a budget somewhere around the 29-31 million range. It appears that they are now up to 34 million with Kobasew and Lombardi still to sign. Have they decided to open the pockets a bit and go with a much higher budget?
Sutter's been throwing around a 34 million dollar budget the last couple of weeks. Even as high as 36.

Ken King (The Flames President) said that there was no budget in place and Sutter could spend money as he sees fit.

So who knows.... But i'd guess somewhere in the 34-35 range would be about right.

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They may regret this in year four, but for now they have a team that has shown to be able to compete for the Cup. You need to keep that kind of team together.

I think this is a better signing than Rathje or Malakhov.
I am not sure..in 4 years Warrener will be around 33 or just turning 34 years old. He would just be coming off his prime and than his contract is up. Plus its hard to put a value on what he brings off the ice as well. He is the heart and soul of the defense core right now. He is basically the "captain" of the defense core and brings stability to it.

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I am not sure..in 4 years Warrener will be around 33 or just turning 34 years old. He would just be coming off his prime and than his contract is up. Plus its hard to put a value on what he brings off the ice as well. He is the heart and soul of the defense core right now. He is basically the "captain" of the defense core and brings stability to it.
Not for a lack of talent, but potentially a lack of cap space if Phaneuf, Regehr, and Leopold continue to progress (in skill and salary). But I agree with others that it's certainly not the worst signing thus far. Good job overall by Sutter.

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Not for a lack of talent, but potentially a lack of cap space if Phaneuf, Regehr, and Leopold continue to progress (in skill and salary). But I agree with others that it's certainly not the worst signing thus far. Good job overall by Sutter.
They should be ok. Leopold, Phaneuf and Regehr are all locked up for the next 3 years.

That 2008 summer is going to be busy for Sutter. Iginla, Kiprusoff, Langkow, Leopold, Phaneuf and Regehr. Wow.

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They should be ok. Leopold, Phaneuf and Regehr are all locked up for the next 3 years.

That 2008 summer is going to be busy for Sutter. Iginla, Kiprusoff, Langkow, Leopold, Phaneuf and Regehr. Wow.
Leopold has a two year deal.

Ya, that is a busy summer, but this year he had all those contract minus Phaneuf and Regehr, and in 2008 he will have all those contracts again minus Leopold.

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I disagree with those of you who say the deal is high. Isles paid 3.5 million for Zhitnik, and Philly paid similar money for Rathje. Rhett W. is every bit as effective overall as those players.

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I disagree with those of you who say the deal is high. Isles paid 3.5 million for Zhitnik, and Philly paid similar money for Rathje. Rhett W. is every bit as effective overall as those players.
However, they paid those players as unrestricted free agents and thus naturally had to pay them slightly more. I personally feel two decent comparisons for Rhett Warrener are Steve Staios and Jason Smith of the Oilers. Smith makes $1 976 000 and Staios makes $1 615 000. In any event, the sum of money isn't ridiculous by any means and it makes sense that Sutter wanted him locked up for a number of years.

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$2.35 mil...


another long term overpayed deal...seriously "IF" he does not play well this comming season, no team would pick him up for this price.
it would be funny if the flames don't make the playoff this yr and they stuck with all these overpayed/overrated players

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I disagree with those of you who say the deal is high. Isles paid 3.5 million for Zhitnik, and Philly paid similar money for Rathje. Rhett W. is every bit as effective overall as those players.
But you can't compare a RFA deal to a UFA deal!

Whether the deal is high or low depends how it compares to similar players in similar situations.

Compare Warrener's 2.4M to players like Lydman, Mara, Salei etc.

Note that I'm not saying Warrener got too much, let's just say that it was highish but still within reasonable limits (IMHO a reasonable deal would have been between 1.6 - 2.5M)

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$2.35 mil...


another long term overpayed deal...seriously "IF" he does not play well this comming season, no team would pick him up for this price.
it would be funny if the flames don't make the playoff this yr and they stuck with all these overpayed/overrated players
A number of teams would be willing to acquire Warrener at that price. Philly was willing to dole out 3.5 million for Rathje and Warrner is a very similar player...

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it would be funny if the flames don't make the playoff this yr and they stuck with all these overpayed/overrated players
Oilers fan are ya'?

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$2.35 mil...


another long term overpayed deal...seriously "IF" he does not play well this comming season, no team would pick him up for this price.
it would be funny if the flames don't make the playoff this yr and they stuck with all these overpayed/overrated players
all those overpayed players???

do you mean the FOUR (Iginla,Kipper,Langkow, Warrener)players on the team making more than 2 Million dollars? (all of whom would have been unrestricted next summer??)

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