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Rank how responsible Melnyk, Murray, and Maclean are for the losing season

View Poll Results: Who is most responsible
Melnyk 71 53.79%
Maclean 31 23.48%
Murray 5 3.79%
The Players 25 18.94%
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03-06-2014, 06:58 AM
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Yeah because you knew ben bishop was going to be a star goalie...

Umm when we picked him up he was known as the best goalie not in the NHL, he was lights out as a sen and that brought a lot of interest in him from other teams, and yes I laughed when we got a little midget for him.
On top of that I argued with all you super smart GM types Conacher should not be given top minutes and treated like a go to guy. But nooo it is one of the reasons the coach is an idiot.....

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03-06-2014, 07:09 AM
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How can this be Melnyk's fault? We had a worse roster last year and we made it to the 2nd round.

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03-06-2014, 07:12 AM
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Umm when we picked him up he was known as the best goalie not in the NHL, he was lights out as a sen and that brought a lot of interest in him from other teams, and yes I laughed when we got a little midget for him.
On top of that I argued with all you super smart GM types Conacher should not be given top minutes and treated like a go to guy. But nooo it is one of the reasons the coach is an idiot.....
Thats called a good prospect. And when he was available last year most of the proporsals were underwhelming....

Thats not a "star goalie".

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03-06-2014, 08:12 AM
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Must be the leadership that doesnt promote the right attitude.

Last year the team was down and should have been out, but they fought very hard to stay in the race and it eventually paid off. I blame Melnyk for the Alfredsson debacle and I dont understand why Spezza given the C, Neil would have been a more pesky choice!

On paper this Sens team is significantly better than last years but it lost its character/soul or whatever and it shows.

This team needs leadership!

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03-06-2014, 08:14 AM
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03-06-2014, 09:01 AM
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So if it is the players, how is that not on the gm

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03-06-2014, 09:08 AM
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Melnyk turned this team from a respectable, competitive organization in to a joke. It's him, no doubt for me.

MacLean and the players are to blame for questionable performance too, but who wouldn't be distracted in this gongshow?

Murray, imo, has done pretty close to the best he can do with the tools available to him.

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How can this be Melnyk's fault? We had a worse roster last year and we made it to the 2nd round.
We could never rely on him forever, but, depending on your view of the Alfredsson situation, he is directly responsible. Alfredsson made a worst group better... they miss him badly.

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03-06-2014, 09:10 AM
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So if it is the players, how is that not on the gm
The players are underperforming on the ice. There's enough talent on the ice to be in a playoff spot right now. Playing unprepared and listless, taking so many stupid penalties, taking shortcuts...ultimately, what happens on the ice is determined by those on the ice.

Melynk is second because he's acting like a jackass and created a cheapskate culture with this franchise that will always remain as long as he's the owner.

Maclean and his damned line changes are next on the list. Lump the assistants in that one. Clearly playing favorites, and for a good chunk of 2014 he basically tore the rest of the team apart to get Spezza going...now we have one line that barely clicks, and three lines that suck.

Murray is trying to play the GM game with both hands tied behind his back. He has to cater to a fickle casual fanbase that would go ******* over losing the veteran Phillips, he has an idiot for an owner, and, quite frankly, is a bit too soft for the job. Murray still carries blame, but the biggest piles go to the ones listed above.

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03-06-2014, 09:55 AM
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Melnyk - Murray share equal blame at the top.

Melnyk because of the gongshow that now surrounds the team with holding it hostage to get a casino, constant embarrassing public statements, insulting this fanbase's intelligence with mixed messages etc... These things set a very negative mood in the organization, and it becomes contagious and filters down to all aspects of the organization.

Murray because this is the team he assembled. He's been here long enough. Say what you will about being a 'budget' team, but when the cap was implemented after the 04-05 lockout, it created parity in the league - meaning you don't need to spend to the cap to be competitive.

He knew coming into this season what the budget was going to be, and he decided how this money was going to be distributed among players. Way too much money spent on forwards, too little on defense, and the results agree with this considering how poorly we've been defensively all season.

Even for weeks leading up to the deadline the focus was getting another top-6 forward when it was obvious to everyone else here that the defense corps needed to be shored up. Failure to recognize what this team's biggest weakness has absolutely nothing to do with being a budget team.

Finally, at the end of it Maclean. I'm not saying fire him, and I fully recognize coaches can have bad seasons too, but some of his decisions have been puzzling and he seems to be alienating certain players - players that weren't part of the team when we had the previous coaching carousel. Ultimately, if Maclean has to go (which seems to be the prevalent opinion around here), there's no way Murray should be kept around either.

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03-06-2014, 10:01 AM
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Phillips,Neil,Greening,Cowen and Wiercioch make a combined 12.5 million

Teams on a budgets can't be doing that
sums it up nicely


Murray overpays on every contract

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03-06-2014, 10:03 AM
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Owner - the people of Ottawa

GM - MAK

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Melnyk.

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03-06-2014, 11:26 AM
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Melnyk
*large gap*
MacLean
*small gap*
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03-06-2014, 11:30 AM
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I fail to see how anyone can blame Murray for this year

He got no wiggle room

He had to give up a pick, a worthless one sure, to get Edmonton to retain salary on Hemsky

This is mostly on Melnyk and Maclean

And even then, I'm secretly hoping Maclean is fooling everyone and actually trying to get our players to truly work harder by giving more ice-time to the hardest workers (who aren't very skilled unfortunately)

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03-06-2014, 11:45 AM
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Melnyk, chiefly. Tired of being a budget team. Tired of watching generational talent like Karlsson being wasted by playing on a team of bums and scrubs that can't take a pass to save their life. Tired of the constant embarrassing drama this putz inserts himself into.

Paulrus...for regressing into an egomaniacal buffoon that has destroyed team chemistry. For his consistently worthless, yet untouchable, old boys club.

Murray I just feel sad for.

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03-06-2014, 11:47 AM
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1. Melnyk
2. Maclean
3. Players
4. Murray

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03-06-2014, 11:48 AM
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Melnyk for sure, the guy is a moron. No clue how he made so much money in his life lol.. Maclean seems to have lost the team this year as well.. And I hate to say it, but since brian burkes comments about ryan since cutting him from the american olympic team, all ryan seems to have done is prove burkes comments are accurate.

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03-06-2014, 01:00 PM
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The Ryan trade and the Bishop trade have been more crippling than the heatley trade.

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03-06-2014, 01:02 PM
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Everyone is responsible but it starts and ends with Melnyk and the Alfredsson situation. The rest of the hot garbage that came after is icing on the cake.

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I fail to see how anyone can blame Murray for this year

He got no wiggle room

He had to give up a pick, a worthless one sure, to get Edmonton to retain salary on Hemsky

This is mostly on Melnyk and Maclean

And even then, I'm secretly hoping Maclean is fooling everyone and actually trying to get our players to truly work harder by giving more ice-time to the hardest workers (who aren't very skilled unfortunately)
Incredibly accurate however re-signing phillips is not doing himself any favors.

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03-06-2014, 01:05 PM
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The Ryan trade and the Bishop trade have been more crippling than the heatley trade.
How is the Bishop trade crippling please elaborate. Yes Conacher was a bust but you can only play one goalie and Bishop was the third. The other teams werent offereing anything better at the time.

Noesen has hardly played in the AHL Silfverberg is a perimiter player playing in Anaheims bottom 6. Ryan has made this team better but the rest of the team went to hell. Adding Spezza, Karlsson and Ryan should have made the team better which made it to the second round. God this season is dissapointing.

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^more crippling.......to the future

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the ######## who put greening - smith - neil right after turris scored a goal last night, followed by the dumb %%%%%% who resigned the guy who iced the puck and imediatly took a penalty leading to a goal against, then the $$$$$$$ dollar clinching person who wont let us have the best team we can possibly have.

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03-06-2014, 01:08 PM
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gsn plays a lot at the same time as phillips too i (think) noticed. all get lots of icetime. i'd like to see the scoring chances/goals against stats while they are on.

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It takes defense around 300 games to adapt to the NHL... Knowing this why has BM traded our 1st this year and collected soon to be UFAs in Ryan, Mcarthur, Spezza, etc

I was talking about defense all summer, saying it is insane to expect the goaltending to do what it did last year again.

Blows my mind BM who had been around the game for so long would put so much faith in an inexpierenced blue line.
90% of this board has been absolutely blindsided by this obvious regression. Last year's team had a ridiculous 93.3 SV%, which is, I believe, the highest team mark in the last 10 years. Even with that unsustainable run they finished a paltry +12. This wasn't a cup contender entering the season, people's expectations were just too high.

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what has Silfverberg done at the nhl level to appoint him such a great player?

If anything he will never score as many goals as Ryan due to being a slower player nor does Silfverberg play as hard a game

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