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03-19-2014, 12:23 AM
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Looks like the earliest clinching scenario in the east could be Boston on Friday depending on how they do and the rangers do.

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03-19-2014, 12:27 AM
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The race to be the first to clinch is on.

St. Louis can clinch with a win on Wednesday and a Dallas loss on Thursday

Boston can clinch with a win on Friday and a Detroit on Thursday.

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03-19-2014, 02:36 AM
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Looks like the earliest clinching scenario in the east could be Boston on Friday depending on how they do and the rangers do.
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The race to be the first to clinch is on.

St. Louis can clinch with a win on Wednesday and a Dallas loss on Thursday

Boston can clinch with a win on Friday and a Detroit on Thursday.
It would have to be a regulation loss by Detroit.

The Bruins can clinch 3rd place in the Atlantic on Saturday by earning at least 3 points in their next two games AND the Leafs getting only 3 points in their next 2 games OR the Habs lose their next 2 games in regulation.

The Bruins can clinch 2nd place in their division on Sat. with both Leafs and Habs above results happening.

The Bruins could be the first team to win their division. They clinch 1st place in their division and the #2 seed in the east by Monday.

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03-19-2014, 02:58 AM
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Doesn't Phoenix currently hold the final western wild card now? And with Dallas losing tonight everyone in the west should have numbers subtracted from their magic number?

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03-19-2014, 09:57 AM
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Doesn't Phoenix currently hold the final western wild card now? And with Dallas losing tonight everyone in the west should have numbers subtracted from their magic number?
Phoenix holds the wild card in the 'standings' not by the magic number setup

Phoenix is at 77 pts, 69gp, and a ROW of 28
Dallas is at 75pts, 68gp and a ROW of 29

Both now max out at 103 pts but Dallas gets the first tie breaker on ROW

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03-19-2014, 10:46 AM
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Tonights Elimination scenarios (hopefully I'm right hahahha)

Nashville will be eliminated from a divisional spot with a regulation loss or

an OTL with Chicago picking up at least 1 points OR

a Nashville Win AND a chicago Win and a Colorado Win

Winnipeg will be eliminated from a divisional spot with a:

Winnipeg loss in regulation AND Chicago Win or OTL

Winnipeg OTL - Chicago Win

If Winnipeg win they are safe for another day as Colorado would stay at 93 points and winnipeg would max out at 95 points.

If both Winnipeg and Chicago lose, Winnipeg would still be able to pass them on ROW

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Tonights Elimination scenarios (hopefully I'm right hahahha)

Nashville will be eliminated from a divisional spot with a regulation loss or

an OTL with Chicago picking up at least 1 points OR

a Nashville Win AND a chicago Win and a Colorado Win

Winnipeg will be eliminated from a divisional spot with a:

Winnipeg loss in regulation AND Chicago Win or OTL

Winnipeg OTL - Chicago Win

If Winnipeg win they are safe for another day as Colorado would stay at 93 points and winnipeg would max out at 95 points.

If both Winnipeg and Chicago lose, Winnipeg would still be able to pass them on ROW
Winnipeg will be eliminated from a divisional spot with a

Winnipeg loss in regulation
Winnipeg OTL and Chicago with at least 1 pt

Explanation on Winnipeg loss
it will become
Winnipeg 71gp 71pt 25 ROW
MAX 93pts and 34 ROW


Chicago has 93pts 34 ROW

they'll end with the same ROW win
but Chicago won 3-1 the matchup against Winnipeg

SAT NOV 2, 2013 FINAL: CHI (5) - WPG (1)
WED NOV 6, 2013 FINAL: WPG (1) - CHI (4)
THU NOV 21, 2013 FINAL: CHI (6) - WPG (3)
SUN JAN 26, 2014 FINAL: WPG (3) - CHI (1)

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Winnipeg will be eliminated from a divisional spot with a

Winnipeg loss in regulation
Winnipeg OTL and Chicago with at least 1 pt

Explanation on Winnipeg loss
it will become
Winnipeg 71gp 71pt 25 ROW
MAX 93pts and 34 ROW


Chicago has 93pts 34 ROW

they'll end with the same ROW win
but Chicago won 3-1 the matchup against Winnipeg

SAT NOV 2, 2013 FINAL: CHI (5) - WPG (1)
WED NOV 6, 2013 FINAL: WPG (1) - CHI (4)
THU NOV 21, 2013 FINAL: CHI (6) - WPG (3)
SUN JAN 26, 2014 FINAL: WPG (3) - CHI (1)
Incorrect my friend!

25 ROW + 11 Games remaining is 36 potential ROW!!!

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The race to be the first to clinch is on.

St. Louis can clinch with a win on Wednesday and a Dallas loss on Thursday

Boston can clinch with a win on Friday and a Detroit on Thursday.
If you factor in the matchups of the teams below them, they both clinched on Monday.

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Unfortunately, I need to call it a night. Since the last game tonight involves two teams out of the race with neither in a cutoff spot, no movement outside of those two teams can take place.

I'll update scenarios tomorrow. Thanks for understanding.

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Great thread!!!

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Incorrect my friend!

25 ROW + 11 Games remaining is 36 potential ROW!!!
you're right. I dont know why I added 9 games instead of 11

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Won't be any clinching scenarios officially until Friday now with that blues loss even if the coyotes/stars lose tomorrow.

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Phoenix holds the wild card in the 'standings' not by the magic number setup

Phoenix is at 77 pts, 69gp, and a ROW of 28
Dallas is at 75pts, 68gp and a ROW of 29

Both now max out at 103 pts but Dallas gets the first tie breaker on ROW
Thanks, that explains it. I'm just anxious to see my team's magic number reduce

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Nashville was officially eliminated from a divisional spot last night

Winnipeg stays alive in the divisional spots with the Win

Tonights elimination prospects

Edmonton can be eliminated from the divisional spots with a Loss, or any scenario where LA gains more points in tonights games.

Florida can be eliminated from the divisional spots with a regulation Loss AND a Tampa Bay Win or OTL And Montreal Win or OTL

OR

Florida OTL And Tampa Bay Win AND Montreal Win

Once it gets the Mayor Bee stamp of Approval it shall be set in stone

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Nashville was officially eliminated from a divisional spot last night

Winnipeg stays alive in the divisional spots with the Win

Tonights elimination prospects

Edmonton can be eliminated from the divisional spots with a Loss, or any scenario where LA gains more points in tonights games.

Florida can be eliminated from the divisional spots with a regulation Loss AND a Tampa Bay Win or OTL And Montreal Win or OTL

OR

Florida OTL And Tampa Bay Win AND Montreal Win

Once it gets the Mayor Bee stamp of Approval it shall be set in stone
Let's go with it. If it's wrong, I'll just blame you.

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Would a Pittsburgh win and Washington loss tonight, both in regulation, mean that Pittsburgh needs just 5 points to clinch?

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Would a Pittsburgh win and Washington loss tonight, both in regulation, mean that Pittsburgh needs just 5 points to clinch?
No, Washington is not the cut off team as it stands. The Magic number setup uses the maximum number of points that a team can get assuming they win out the season. Right now if you organize the eastern conference by "Max Points" you would get the following

Rank Team Max Pts
1. Boston 125pts
2. Pittsburgh 122pts
3. Tampa Bay 109pts
4. Montreal 107pts
5. Philidelphia 107pts
6. Columbus 104pts
7. Detroit 103pts
8. NY Rangers 102pts
9. Toronto 102pts
10. Washington 100pts

SO a Pittsburgh would need to get 102 pts to clinch a playoff spot as it stands. Washingtons Max points would drop to 98 but they are irrelevant in the magic number calculation for Pittsburgh as they are in 10th place.

The Pitt vs Detroit game is the most imporant game for Pittsburgh as it would drop Detroit to the 9th place spot maxing out at 101 pts. At that point pittsburgh would only need 5 points to clinch

Washington winning would still have them in 10th place with a max 100

You have the right number at 5, but the wrong team! So dont worry about that washington game...Just please beat Detroit....I dont like seeing my Leafs in the elimination side

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Won't be any clinching scenarios officially until Friday now with that blues loss even if the coyotes/stars lose tomorrow.
From NHL.com

The St. Louis Blues (idle) would become the first team to clinch a berth in the 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs if the Dallas Stars lose in regulation to the Philadelphia Flyers AND the Phoenix Coyotes lose in any fashion to the Florida Panthers. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads

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Yeah I see how and why it can happen. The coyotes/stars play each other one more time so someone will be losing points. I don't usually look far ahead to see if the teams that control the magic number still play each other again.

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Ok I guess I'm still confused. Which one, Phoenix or Dallas, losing helps the western conference teams clinch?

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With Dallas's loss the magic number for a hard clinch has dropped to 102 in the west.

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Ok I guess I'm still confused. Which one, Phoenix or Dallas, losing helps the western conference teams clinch?
Coming into tonight's games, either one.

Phoenix and Dallas were both tied for the 2nd/3rd wild card spot in terms of possible points. If either one of them loses, it puts teams on the clinching side closer to actually getting there.

If Phoenix wins tonight or loses in OT/SO, Dallas will stay as the 9th-place cutoff team; their lost points would push everyone closer to clinching. If Phoenix loses in regulation, Phoenix will be the cutoff team again on the first tiebreaker.

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Clinching scenarios for tomorrow are easy enough. The blues can clinch a playoff spot if they get at least a point. The bruins can clinch a playoff spot with a win and a rangers loss of any kind as the rangers would not be able to match the bruins ROW total. The bruins could also clinch with an ot/so loss and a rangers regulation loss.

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Updated through 3/20/2014

Dallas has moved down to the elimination side; Phoenix moves up into the wild card.

For tomorrow...

Boston can clinch a playoff spot with a win of any type against Colorado AND an NY Rangers loss of any type against Columbus, OR with an OT/SO loss against Colorado AND an NY Rangers regulation loss against Columbus.

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