HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Bergs on 690

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-28-2014, 04:09 PM
  #101
BrimStone64
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,802
vCash: 500
Marc Bergevin appeared on Chris Nilan show yesterday....a few of his comments:

- Entered the dressing on Jan. 25 and addressed the team. Following a 5-0 loss to Washington. He wanted the players to accept accountability with way team was playing. When players accept accountability when things are going bad it builds character. Learns them to play through adversity. You can't build character in a team when everything is going good. When the team is winning and players are getting all the allocates. In 2000, he was playing for St.Louis, Blues had a great season, never losing more than 3 in a row all year. In the playoffs they played good team and bounces when against them, team fell to pieces as it couldn't deal with adversity.

- Weaver he wanted to add depth on the blueline. As often defensemen go down this time of year. There is no subsitute for depth. They knew Weaver does good stick work and block shots. But said he looks for the size of the fight in the dog, not size of the dog in a fight. When acquiring a player.

- Vanek he would do over even if he doesn't re-sign and Collberg goes on to be good career. Hard to land the top player at deadline. Deadline time usually depth players he able to get. Vanek he liked as he is dangerous around the net. Hard to knock off the puck down low. Makes those short quick, shots or passes around the net. At end of night you don't notice him all game but he will end up with 2 points, including game winning goal. Will sit down with Vanek at end of season and see if he will sign here.

- Gionta's leadership abilities are off the chart. Can log a lot of minutes, responsible defensively, accepts accountability. Practices hard as any player on team.

- Will continue to look for players with size and strength with skill through the draft. As only way to acquire them. Teams hardly ever will trade you a big, strong player with talent.

- Terrein and PK get along great. Both are on same page. When he looked for a coach, thing he looked for was ability to teach the young players. Bergevin said look how Subban has come along under Terrein. Since the lock-out Terrein has 7th best winning percentage of any coach in NHL, at 62.3%

BrimStone64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-28-2014, 04:33 PM
  #102
Dagistitsyn
Registered User
 
Dagistitsyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,045
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats86 View Post
- Will continue to look for players with size and strength with skill through the draft. As only way to acquire them. Teams hardly ever will trade you a big, strong player with talent.
Except for the one you just landed. The MOST talented of any that was available through trade.. now find a way to keep him here please

Dagistitsyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-28-2014, 04:43 PM
  #103
hototogisu
Global Moderator
Poked the bear!!!!!
 
hototogisu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Montreal, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 34,832
vCash: 500
Awards:
Thanks for posting Mats.

hototogisu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-28-2014, 05:05 PM
  #104
PricePkPatch
Registered User
 
PricePkPatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,602
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats86 View Post
Marc Bergevin appeared on Chris Nilan show yesterday....a few of his comments:
I second the thanks for writing all that. I'll go listen to it myself! but first, lemme comment...

Quote:
- Entered the dressing on Jan. 25 and addressed the team. Following a 5-0 loss to Washington. He wanted the players to accept accountability with way team was playing. When players accept accountability when things are going bad it builds character. Learns them to play through adversity. You can't build character in a team when everything is going good. When the team is winning and players are getting all the allocates. In 2000, he was playing for St.Louis, Blues had a great season, never losing more than 3 in a row all year. In the playoffs they played good team and bounces when against them, team fell to pieces as it couldn't deal with adversity.
that's a very good point, if you think about it. Just remembers our 2010 run; the team had had very bad times during the season, but they rallied together and build spirit during goods and bads.

Certain super-loaded teams collapse in the 1st round because everything always went well and they panicked when things didn't went their way.

Quote:
- Weaver he wanted to add depth on the blueline. As often defensemen go down this time of year. There is no subsitute for depth. They knew Weaver does good stick work and block shots. But said he looks for the size of the fight in the dog, not size of the dog in a fight. When acquiring a player.
I love that quote

Quote:
- Vanek he would do over even if he doesn't re-sign and Collberg goes on to be good career. Hard to land the top player at deadline. Deadline time usually depth players he able to get. Vanek he liked as he is dangerous around the net. Hard to knock off the puck down low. Makes those short quick, shots or passes around the net. At end of night you don't notice him all game but he will end up with 2 points, including game winning goal. Will sit down with Vanek at end of season and see if he will sign here.
Agreed on all count. Good for him trying to get Vanek to sign back.

Quote:
- Gionta's leadership abilities are off the chart. Can log a lot of minutes, responsible defensively, accepts accountability. Practices hard as any player on team.
Probably best example is the way he performs since being put on the 3rd line. Certain players would sulk; not Gio.

Quote:
- Will continue to look for players with size and strength with skill through the draft. As only way to acquire them. Teams hardly ever will trade you a big, strong player with talent.
And sign undrafted players from the NCAA

Keep up that good work, MB. McCarron, DLR.. good size acquisitions.

Quote:
- Terrein and PK get along great. Both are on same page. When he looked for a coach, thing he looked for was ability to teach the young players. Bergevin said look how Subban has come along under Terrein. Since the lock-out Terrein has 7th best winning percentage of any coach in NHL, at 62.3%
PR damage control or heartfelt comment? YOU DECIDE

Oh well. Listened to Subban's interview made today, and Subban isn't crushed in his confidence, while making perfectly clear he doesn't like the way he performed yesterday, and needs to be more consistent.

PricePkPatch is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-29-2014, 06:48 AM
  #105
BrimStone64
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,802
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
I second the thanks for writing all that. I'll go listen to it myself! but first, lemme comment...



that's a very good point, if you think about it. Just remembers our 2010 run; the team had had very bad times during the season, but they rallied together and build spirit during goods and bads.

Certain super-loaded teams collapse in the 1st round because everything always went well and they panicked when things didn't went their way.



I love that quote



Agreed on all count. Good for him trying to get Vanek to sign back.



Probably best example is the way he performs since being put on the 3rd line. Certain players would sulk; not Gio.



And sign undrafted players from the NCAA

Keep up that good work, MB. McCarron, DLR.. good size acquisitions.



PR damage control or heartfelt comment? YOU DECIDE

Oh well. Listened to Subban's interview made today, and Subban isn't crushed in his confidence, while making perfectly clear he doesn't like the way he performed yesterday, and needs to be more consistent.
I like to listen to GM like Bergs talk. That is how you learn what is really going on behind the game. Players like Bergs played in league a long while. Imagine he picked up most from the Bowmans in Chicago and coaches like Joel Quenneville. Serge Savard was a very good listen to also back in the his day. How he learned from others on making money or running the Habs. In ventures like horse racing, which John Ferguson got him into. Or the Habs, those years under Sam Pollock, incorporating Quebec players who played with passion. Because they understood the intense media pressure in Montreal. Guys like Roy, Lemieux or Carbonneau. Kind of ironic, but he said that in an interview after he was fired. Later on, all of those 3 went on to play tangible roles in winning cups elsewhere.

BrimStone64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 09:10 PM
  #106
PricePkPatch
Registered User
 
PricePkPatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,602
vCash: 500
Somebody else listening to the Bergevin interview by Ron Fournier?

Good stuff so far. Claims to be most proud of desharnais, because he appreciate most players who manage to drag themselves out of the dumpster.

- claim patience is the most important thing regarding Eller. That the right thing to do is not to trade him, but to properly sourround him.

- Say that Therrien's record speaks for itself. Him and his assistants. Stability in leadership is an important thing.

- Said same thing regarding his attitude after the 5-0 loss to Washington than in previous interview.

- Had started negotiations days ahead for the Vanek trade, but didn't liked the initial demands. He basically stayed the course and didn't yielded anything more than what he was willing to trade away. And it worked. (Never play chicken with Bergevin)

- Understands that Vanek can go wherever he wants. And that seducing him will only go so far. It will be up to Vanek in the end.

- say that negotiation with Vanek is not something he will discuss publicly. But their happening is "possible"

- Likes Gionta, because he gives the same message that the organization as a whole is trying to get across when it comes to character. Would rather have a smaller team who compete in adversity than a larger team who drag their feet.

- Regarding acquiring a "strong man" (fighter) --> he looked at our division; with Boston, Toronto and Buffalo. He compared it to moving into a bad neighbourhood. You either set up a security system or you move out. Habs can't move out, so he felt Parros was needed.

- Weaver is detail-oriented, he block shots, he uses his stick well, kill plays, moves the puck nice. And he plays physical.

- PK Subban --> meh. Not much said about that

- Gotta see if all RFAs and UFA on the team are willing to get on board at the price we can afford them. If they cannot, then we're going to have to cut some people from our roster.

- One step at a time when it comes to the future. First things first --> make the playoffs.


Last edited by PricePkPatch: 03-31-2014 at 09:31 PM.
PricePkPatch is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 09:28 PM
  #107
Team_Spirit
Gangsta Pleks
 
Team_Spirit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 22,720
vCash: 1200
Ron > the rest

Team_Spirit is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 09:34 PM
  #108
BlackStar
Registered User
 
BlackStar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,339
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
Somebody else listening to the Bergevin interview by Ron Fournier?

Good stuff so far. Claims to be most proud of desharnais, because he appreciate most players who manage to drag themselves out of the dumpster.

- claim patience is the most important thing regarding Eller. That the right thing to do is not to trade him, but to properly sourround him.

- Say that Therrien's record speaks for itself. Him and his assistants. Stability in leadership is an important thing.

- Said same thing regarding his attitude after the 5-0 loss to Washington than in previous interview.

- Had started negotiations days ahead for the Vanek trade, but didn't liked the initial demands. He basically stayed the course and didn't yielded anything more than what he was willing to trade away. And it worked. (Never play chicken with Bergevin)

- Understands that Vanek can go wherever he wants. And that seducing him will only go so far. It will be up to Vanek in the end.

- say that negotiation with Vanek is not something he will discuss publicly. But their happening is "possible"

- Likes Gionta, because he gives the same message that the organization as a whole is trying to get across when it comes to character. Would rather have a smaller team who compete in adversity than a larger team who drag their feet.

- Regarding acquiring a "strong man" (fighter) --> he looked at our division; with Boston, Toronto and Buffalo. He compared it to moving into a bad neighbourhood. You either set up a security system or you move out. Habs can't move out, so he felt Parros was needed.

- Weaver is detail-oriented, he block shots, he uses his stick well, kill plays, moves the puck nice. And he plays physical.

- PK Subban --> meh. Not much said about that

- Gotta see if all RFAs and UFA on the team are willing to get on board at the price we can afford them. If they cannot, then we're going to have to cut some people from our roster.

- One step at a time when it comes to the future. First things first --> make the playoffs.
I like Bergevin.

BlackStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 09:46 PM
  #109
PricePkPatch
Registered User
 
PricePkPatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,602
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team_Spirit View Post
Ron > the rest
AINEC

He's currently calling out Laraque for saying that Parros didn't "do the job". He claims that at least Parros tried to his last breath, which you couldn't say the same for Laraque, who failed as miserably.

PricePkPatch is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 09:49 PM
  #110
sheed36
Registered User
 
sheed36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 21,920
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
Somebody else listening to the Bergevin interview by Ron Fournier?

Good stuff so far. Claims to be most proud of desharnais, because he appreciate most players who manage to drag themselves out of the dumpster.

- claim patience is the most important thing regarding Eller. That the right thing to do is not to trade him, but to properly sourround him.

- Say that Therrien's record speaks for itself. Him and his assistants. Stability in leadership is an important thing.

- Said same thing regarding his attitude after the 5-0 loss to Washington than in previous interview.

- Had started negotiations days ahead for the Vanek trade, but didn't liked the initial demands. He basically stayed the course and didn't yielded anything more than what he was willing to trade away. And it worked. (Never play chicken with Bergevin)

- Understands that Vanek can go wherever he wants. And that seducing him will only go so far. It will be up to Vanek in the end.

- say that negotiation with Vanek is not something he will discuss publicly. But their happening is "possible"

- Likes Gionta, because he gives the same message that the organization as a whole is trying to get across when it comes to character. Would rather have a smaller team who compete in adversity than a larger team who drag their feet.

- Regarding acquiring a "strong man" (fighter) --> he looked at our division; with Boston, Toronto and Buffalo. He compared it to moving into a bad neighbourhood. You either set up a security system or you move out. Habs can't move out, so he felt Parros was needed.

- Weaver is detail-oriented, he block shots, he uses his stick well, kill plays, moves the puck nice. And he plays physical.

- PK Subban --> meh. Not much said about that

- Gotta see if all RFAs and UFA on the team are willing to get on board at the price we can afford them. If they cannot, then we're going to have to cut some people from our roster.

- One step at a time when it comes to the future. First things first --> make the playoffs.
Thanks for the post.. I wouldn't mind letting Bouillon go and keeping Weaver around for next year to take Bouillon's place.

sheed36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 10:09 PM
  #111
Patccmoi
Registered User
 
Patccmoi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,112
vCash: 500
Was a nice interview with Ron, but I'm really not happy at the very likely possibility of Therrien + Gionta coming back.

Patccmoi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 10:13 PM
  #112
BRAD HABSFAN
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: JERSEY COAST
Country: United States
Posts: 369
vCash: 500
Thanks guys!!

BRAD HABSFAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 10:18 PM
  #113
PricePkPatch
Registered User
 
PricePkPatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,602
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patccmoi View Post
Was a nice interview with Ron, but I'm really not happy at the very likely possibility of Therrien + Gionta coming back.
Gio at lower price wouldn't bother me that much, to be honest... He's a damn fine 3rd liner.

Therrien? While he's had his hiccups, I don't see why you people keep wanting him fired. He gets result, and this team is sewn tighter than ever under his care.

PricePkPatch is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-31-2014, 10:24 PM
  #114
Runner77
#gangstA Ghetto 58
 
Runner77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,616
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patccmoi View Post
Was a nice interview with Ron, but I'm really not happy at the very likely possibility of Therrien + Gionta coming back.
I was distracted when Ron asked Bergs about Therrien's contractual situation. Ron said something about the message it would send when a coach only has one year left on his contract. What exactly did Bergs say about re-signing Therrien?

Runner77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 07:06 AM
  #115
Johnny B Good
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 209
vCash: 500
I just heard on TSn690 that Bergevin got a 7th round from Leafs in exhange for the loan of Youppi?? Is this ****ing serious?

EDIT : 1st of april, i guess...

Johnny B Good is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 07:09 AM
  #116
_vivelequebec_
Registered User
 
_vivelequebec_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Montréal
Country: Martinique
Posts: 401
vCash: 500
You, are you serious? Look at the date.

_vivelequebec_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 07:12 AM
  #117
Johnny B Good
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 209
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by _vivelequebec_ View Post
You, are you serious? Look at the date.
I noticed the second I posted..didnt even know realize it was april 1st.

Johnny B Good is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 07:24 AM
  #118
Patccmoi
Registered User
 
Patccmoi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,112
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Runner77 View Post
I was distracted when Ron asked Bergs about Therrien's contractual situation. Ron said something about the message it would send when a coach only has one year left on his contract. What exactly did Bergs say about re-signing Therrien?
Just the way he talks about it and praises him. He did not say anything directly about re-signing him, just points this way. Same thing for Gionta.

Patccmoi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 07:53 AM
  #119
MasterD
Registered User
 
MasterD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,631
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheed36 View Post
Thanks for the post.. I wouldn't mind letting Bouillon go and keeping Weaver around for next year to take Bouillon's place.
Same here. Especially since he's RHD.

MasterD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 02:15 PM
  #120
MasterDecoy
Carlos Danger
 
MasterDecoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Beijing
Posts: 11,677
vCash: 500
as much as it would be this board's fantasy, bergy can't fire therrien with the record he has. but fear not, he'll eventually overextend his welcome

MasterDecoy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 02:43 PM
  #121
QuebecPride
@Etienne_Pouliot
 
QuebecPride's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sherbrooke , Qc
Country: Martinique
Posts: 2,805
vCash: 500
Bergevin was with Ron Fournier last night.


Part 1: http://www.985sports.ca/lecteur/audi...ire-217645.mp3

Part 2: http://www.985sports.ca/lecteur/audi...ire-217646.mp3

QuebecPride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 02:44 PM
  #122
Kingbobert
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Kingbobert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Greece
Posts: 4,706
vCash: 500
hey lacracque (yes i mispelled it on purpose), the only year boston dominated us was the year you were supposed to be our enforcer....hmmmmm so you were less useful than no enforcer how about you **** hunh?
1-3-2 in regular season and then 0-4 in the playoffs....

Kingbobert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 02:59 PM
  #123
Monctonscout
Monctonscout
 
Monctonscout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 32,401
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
AINEC

He's currently calling out Laraque for saying that Parros didn't "do the job". He claims that at least Parros tried to his last breath, which you couldn't say the same for Laraque, who failed as miserably.
The big difference between Parros and Laraque is Parros would piss off some people if he had to to defend a teammate, Laraque was all about being nice to everybody and his image.

Monctonscout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 03:05 PM
  #124
Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
 
Habs 4 Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Italy
Posts: 33,873
vCash: 256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik963 View Post
I just heard on TSn690 that Bergevin got a 7th round from Leafs in exhange for the loan of Youppi?? Is this ****ing serious?

EDIT : 1st of april, i guess...
1st or bust!!

Habs 4 Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-01-2014, 03:10 PM
  #125
Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
 
Habs 4 Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Italy
Posts: 33,873
vCash: 256
Quote:
Originally Posted by PricePkPatch View Post
Gio at lower price wouldn't bother me that much, to be honest... He's a damn fine 3rd liner.

Therrien? While he's had his hiccups, I don't see why you people keep wanting him fired. He gets result, and this team is sewn tighter than ever under his care.
Some might be mad but I really wouldn't be surprised if Gionta is brought back for another 2 years. But hopefully it's going to be not more then 3 million and he will have to move Bourque this summer. Gionta is a solid 3rd liner, Therrien just needs to realize that and not overplay him

Habs 4 Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:09 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2015 All Rights Reserved.