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03-14-2014, 05:35 PM
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I still wanna know why people pick bylsma. Not trying to be inflammatory, just honestly curious....
Has arguably the best two players in the world and has only one Cup to show for it.

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hartley should not be mentioned on this list.

what he gets out of the Flames on a nightly basis is superhuman given the relative skill level and questions in net.

he is far closer to deserving the jack adams than being considered the worst.

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hartley should not be mentioned on this list.

what he gets out of the Flames on a nightly basis is superhuman given the relative skill level and questions in net.

he is far closer to deserving the jack adams than being considered the worst.
Agreed, how the hell did his name even come up in here. He's done some awesome things with Giordano and TJ Brodie. He seems to keep his troops very well motivated. I actually think he'd be a good coach to hold on to.

On-topic : I would say Bylsma. I don't know what it is about his methodology, but he just can't bring back that same intensity to his team from 2009 when the playoffs come rolling around. Any team with Crosby and Malkin is obviously gonna be a dominant regular season team, it's all about getting it done in the playoffs, which Bylsma just can't do.

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03-14-2014, 06:37 PM
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Therrien.

Gorges plays better on the right side, but Therrien makes him play on the left.
Emelin plays better on the left side, but Therrien makes him play on the right.

Do you see a solution ?

Vanek is playing on the right wing tonight, despite playing left wing for almost all of his career.

Oh and he ****ing plays Bouillon.

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"Is that so ?"

"Yes, I'm thinking of growing my hair out and making it blonde. "

"Why do you compare yourself to him(Erik Karlsson) ?"

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03-14-2014, 06:41 PM
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Bylsma.

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03-14-2014, 06:52 PM
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Most Man games lost by far (100 more than the next closest team).
#1 PP in the NHL.
#1 PK in the NHL.
1 point behind #1 in the East.

Clearly Dan Bylsma is a terrible coach because he has as much playoff success as Mike Babcock (who I regard as the best coach in the NHL) in the last 5 years.

"But but but he has Crosby and Malkin!"

Well in 2011 when Crosby & Malkin both went down and the Penguins first line was an enigmatic Alex Kovalev and a snakebitten James Neal centred by Mark Letustu, they still finished with over 100 points.

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03-14-2014, 06:56 PM
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03-14-2014, 06:57 PM
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And how is Hartley on OP's list? Laughable ignorance.

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I still wanna know why people pick bylsma. Not trying to be inflammatory, just honestly curious....
Failure to reach expectations, a refusal to match lines or do anything to stop other teams from doing so even with last change, a complete unwillingness and/or inability to enact in-game adjustments, doesn't know when to call timeouts, way too much ice time to grinders, holds young players to impossibly high standards while giving veterans an endless amount of slack, an unwillingness and/or inability to alter strategies in the playoffs, the telegraphed and never altered stretch pass method of puck movement, his overuse of bad fourth line grinders who remind him of himself, random stylistic changes that are unnecessary (see: Canada-USA game), etc.

It's bad enough the Penguins haven't been back to the Stanley Cup Finals since his first season (before his system was put in place), but it's the fantastic ways his teams have gone down.
2010 I'll give him some slack because the Penguins were coming off back-to-back Finals visits and it was an Olympic year...the team ran out of gas, but he never once changed his strategy in the Montreal series and got burned by the same things over and over.
2011 is also tossed away, no Sid & no Geno for the playoffs meant there was no way the Penguins were legitimate contenders...but still to go from a 3-1 lead to a less-than-great Tampa Bay team to lose was brutal.
2012 was the Flyers mess. He lost the team completely and was outcoached at every turn by Laviolette.
2013 was the Bruins mess. No adjustments, just spewing out the same 'get to our game' and get eliminated after scoring just 2 goals in the series. Not to mention he literally had too many toys that he didn't know what to do with them...Jokinen was a healthy scratch more often than not (and on the 4th line when he did get in) after success post-trade with 7 goals in 10 regular season games with the Pens, Murray was given too much ES TOI, and the big thing - playing HoF-to be right winger Jarome Iginla on the goddamned left wing, making him a round peg being jammed into a hole because he didn't want to mess with Pascal Dupuis, who is equally adept at playing both wing, and playing James Neal on the wrong wing to accommodate putting Iginla on the wrong wing...I just...what the ****, guy?
2014 Olympics...I mean, really? Just embarrassing.

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1. Tortorella
- Sure if you want to blame injuries and lack of depth; but to not even have a compete level in games of importance and being a complete side show despite his proclamations of being a changed calmer man (at least to the media) prior to the season.

2. Eakins
- Has a poor but skilled team and has failed to instill a system or develop the players accordingly. No progress almost a regress.

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Most Man games lost by far (100 more than the next closest team).
#1 PP in the NHL.
#1 PK in the NHL.
1 point behind #1 in the East.

Clearly Dan Bylsma is a terrible coach because he has as much playoff success as Mike Babcock (who I regard as the best coach in the NHL) in the last 5 years.

"But but but he has Crosby and Malkin!"

Well in 2011 when Crosby & Malkin both went down and the Penguins first line was an enigmatic Alex Kovalev and a snakebitten James Neal centred by Mark Letustu, they still finished with over 100 points.
Was gonna post something similar. Consistently atop the Eastern Conference while being consistently atop the Man Games Lost category. And other than this year has rarely had a healthy Crosby and Malkin together during the same time. How is it possible he's getting votes for worst coach in the NHL??? Teams who are fully healthy don't get near the results as Bylsma and the Penguins get with half an NHL roster.

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03-14-2014, 07:01 PM
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The Canucks have imploded ever since he arrived.

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03-14-2014, 07:02 PM
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2014 Olympics...I mean, really? Just embarrassing.
How is that embarrassing? Until Canada beat the USA 1-0 everyone was calling USA the team to beat. One. Single. Goal. Yeah, they lost big time to Finland but Finland is always stoked about winning any medal. For USA it's gold or nothing. It's just the same as when Canada lost to the Czechs in 1998. They played the Fins for the bronze, who they should have easily beat, but were just too disinterested in the bronze and lost.

Unless you've coached before, you have no idea how helpless a feeling it is when your team just doesn't want it as bad as your opponent.

Is there any doubt that if USA had managed to pop in a goal against Canada and pulled off the win in the shootout that they would have beat Sweden for the Gold?

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Eakins or Capuano.

Torts has been a terrible fit for us, but I don't think he's a terrible coach in general.

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Was gonna post something similar. Consistently atop the Eastern Conference while being consistently atop the Man Games Lost category. And other than this year has rarely had a healthy Crosby and Malkin together during the same time. How is it possible he's getting votes for worst coach in the NHL??? Teams who are fully healthy don't get near the results as Bylsma and the Penguins get with half an NHL roster.
The only thing you need to know about Penguins fans (I'm one of them) is that they LOVE to call their coach an idiot. Doesn't matter what he's done.

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03-14-2014, 07:08 PM
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I don't think saying Eakins is fair. Maybe the most inexperienced, sure. But you can't hang EDM lack of success around his neck. They've been bad for a while now, and gone through many coaches.

I'd say Tortorella from a personaily perspective can wear on people, and I'd hate to have him as our coach!

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How is that embarrassing? Until Canada beat the USA 1-0 everyone was calling USA the team to beat. One. Single. Goal. Yeah, they lost big time to Finland but Finland is always stoked about winning any medal. For USA it's gold or nothing. It's just the same as when Canada lost to the Czechs in 1998. They played the Fins for the bronze, who they should have easily beat, but were just too disinterested in the bronze and lost.

Unless you've coached before, you have no idea how helpless a feeling it is when your team just doesn't want it as bad as your opponent.

Is there any doubt that if USA had managed to pop in a goal against Canada and pulled off the win in the shootout that they would have beat Sweden for the Gold?

Cause they under preformed in that game against Canada and came up small and then in the Bronze medal game they just didn't show up and left the Olympics with nothing. that's a huge embarrassment. And from what I've seen he is constantly out-coached in the playoffs.

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So Blysma coaches the team with the most games lost to injury, has the best record in the conference and has the best PK and PP in the league…….and he stinks?

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So Blysma coaches the team with the most games lost to injury, has the best record in the conference and has the best PK and PP in the league…….and he stinks?
Blows my mind.

I don't know about "worst" but Adam Oates certainly belongs in the discussion.

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So Blysma coaches the team with the most games lost to injury, has the best record in the conference and has the best PK and PP in the league…….and he stinks?
Go ask Pens fans. I would think they know best. I'm pretty familiar with Bylsma being a Flyers fan. A master tactician he is not and doesn't have any control over the team when things go wrong.

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...this daft moron above is the right answer, and by a large margin...Eakins needs seasoning, but it will come and he's moving forward already...Capuano is hamstrung by the morons in the front office on the Island, but can at least run the bench and adjust in game...Torts is an aquired taste and is the wrong guy for a team like VanCity, but he get s the job done with a good defensive base and is a very good strategist...people mentioning Hartley in here need to get out of the Sun, cuz he's doing a damn good job with a very young team that just blew it up last year, give him time...Therrien can't strategize...or adjust...or not play favorites, despite their detriment to his team...or remain in emotional control...or...coach...if it wasn't for the Francophone Media, he wouldn't have a job with an NHL team, or even with one of their minor league affiliates...he couldn't run a two-car funeral procession...

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Eakins goes from being one of the top up and coming coaches to possibly getting fired after one season and being in the "worst coach in the NHL" conversation.

He has definitely done some questionable things with the Oilers and who knows if he's a good NHL coach or not but he isn't the only one to blame for that mess. Meanwhile Oilers management will keep the "kids" around because they obviously can't be the problem and they'll see what a new coach can do.

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Oates.. He's about as out of his depth with the Caps as David Moyes is with Man Utd though obviously the Caps have a lot more roster issues.

- No apparent system in place even after getting a full offseason
- Constant toying with lines yet always seems to be the wrong combination. On top of that mismanagement of players (Erat is a good example).
- Picking worse players for the defense because of a ridiculous obsession with handedness.

Oates is a pp specialist and an Ovi whisperer that should be an assistant and nothing more.


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