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03-15-2014, 01:40 AM
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Adam Oates, and I can't see how this is debatable. We're terrible at everything and are regressing at everything.
Having an idiot GM who also has zero connection with the coaches doesn't help.

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03-15-2014, 01:41 AM
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Agreed. Bad coaches don't win a Stanley Cup by accident. It seems Vancouver's woes are more organizational than anything.
I agree. I don't think Torts is a very good coach, per se, but I don't think he's bad either, and certainly not even remotely close to being the worst. As you said, Vancouver's problems go beyond coaching and exists before Torts got there. That franchise was probably going to have an ugly year no matter what; bringing in the wrong coach for the job didn't help, but the wrong coach doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad coach, just a bad fit. Capuano and Therrien are much worse. Eakins strikes me as horrible too, but he's a rookie with a team that doesn't seem to play well for anyone so I don't know what to think.

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03-15-2014, 01:42 AM
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Can't really blame Capuano with the team he has. Same can be said for Hartley.

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03-15-2014, 01:56 AM
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Oates and his bunch of clowns. Seems to me that none of the Caps coaches has a clue. Not a single one of them. Such a talented yet messed up team.
I could quote all of the other reasons listed as to why Oates is the worst and add a few of my own, but this is a good summing up.

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03-15-2014, 02:34 AM
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There is only one right answer for this : Dallas Eakins

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03-15-2014, 02:35 AM
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I can say, without a doubt, Adam Oates.

The guy thinks he's reinventing the wheel. Instead he's just hammering nails into the tires.

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03-15-2014, 03:31 AM
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I'm an Oilers fan and I know that although he is indeed a rookie coach, this suckage is due to the play of our top sixers and the fact we have no D whatsoever. Also, when we were playing better as a team, our goalie was being "swarmed" with quality chances and making absolutely zero key saves. But, I'm not writing him off just yet. However, due to the play of the team this year of late, Eakins is among the league's worst.

Worst coaches in the league, for my money, are Carlyle, Therrien, Eakins, Oates, Capuano, and Yeo. Also I believe Hartley and Roy are on the overrated side, to be frank, however I do admire Roy's ability to get a young team to turn around the team's woes. However, a strong part of Colorado's success has been the play of Varlamov. Hartley, meanwhile, has a team that has work ethic but the team still isn't stellar really. Sometimes they have nice stretches, others aren't great at all.

Also wouldn't say I'm completely sold on Nolan or Berube in their first years either, but, like Eakins, I'd wait on them.

I think part of the toughness is deciding whether the roster is at fault or the coach for a situation. I think the case can be made with Eakins and Hartley (and even Capuano, due to goaltending) that the team just isn't good in front of them. I don't buy that for Carlyle, Therrien, Oates, or Yeo.

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03-15-2014, 03:32 AM
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03-15-2014, 03:55 AM
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Pens fans: what makes Bylsma such a bad coach?

Oilers fans: what makes Eakins such a bad coach?

Isles fans: what makes Capuano such a bad coach?

Caps fans: what makes Oates such a bad coach?

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03-15-2014, 04:16 AM
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Bylsma's tragic shortcomings as a coach are masked all too often by shear talent.

As the Penguin's coach, he's ok. As a coach, he's probably bottom 3 in the league.
I think it's the opposite. He does his best coaching at the Pens when we have injuries. He gets the best out of our less skilled players. He has had excuses since 2009 but at some point you have to move on.

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03-15-2014, 06:43 AM
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Caps fans: what makes Oates such a bad coach?
In short, he thinks he's the smartest guy ever and doesn't put his players into positions to succeed.

- moves player to positions they're bad at because of handedness;
- absolutely no system;
- sticks with terrible, obviously not working lines (like Mojo-NickyB-AO) for months, breaks up working lines after 2 shifts;
- we're extremely soft despite having one of the biggest teams in the league;
- claims that he doesn't need to say speeches despite team obviously lacking leadership and discipline;
- throws his player under a bus after a questionable hit by a goon;
- managed to ruin Holtby's confidence because of idiotic 3-goalie strategy with no right for a mistake;
- entering the zone via dump and watch;
- plays Carrick who's obviously not ready yet, and Erskine who's just horrible this year;
- plays Wilson on the 4th ine;
- plays Laich in top 6 even when he has a terrible stretch and Fehr is a great shape;
- plays worst defensive forward line with Green and Orlov (or an equally inadequate defensive pairings);
- doesn't play Green where he's still the best (PP1);
- zero work on players' common mistakes (Orlov's berserker rush, Green's backpedaling to the gates);
- and so on ad infinitum...

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03-15-2014, 06:50 AM
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Eakins I disagree with
Quinn couldn't win with the team thrown under the bus in 1 season
Renney couldn't win with the team thrown under the bus in 2 seasons
Krueger couldn't win with the team thrown under the bus in 1 season
and now the Oilers plan for success...
Eakins can't win with this team and it's been 6 months, where's the bus?
Quinn, Renney, and Kruger all had inferior and injury-riddled teams. At least under Krueger there was some progress. We've had zero significant injuries and yet we're as bad as at any point in Oiler history right now.

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03-15-2014, 07:24 AM
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My Top 3:

1. Jack Capuano
2. Michel Therrien
3. Bob Hartley
I'm a Flames fan, but I didn't like the Hartley move initially. However what the guy has gotten out of the Flames has been unreal.

They have very little talent and they've had a ton of injuries. Yet somehow they compete every night. There's no way he should be anywhere on this list.

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03-15-2014, 07:48 AM
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03-15-2014, 08:08 AM
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My Top 3:

1. Jack Capuano
2. Michel Therrien
3. Bob Hartley
When thinking about this I look at coaches who, when it counts, are not able to identify, then make the necessary adjustments

1- Bylsma

2- Budreau

3- Tortorella

It`s too easy to cherry pick coaches from bottom feeders

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03-15-2014, 08:49 AM
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I am a Flyer fan and I am not to impressed with Berube....he makes me nervous looking ahead into the future....just do not think he has a lot of hockey smarts!

Hartley should not be on any list of bad coaches....what he has got out of a horrible roster in Calgary is quite amazing.
You know Hartley is doing a good job when Devonator says something borderline complimentary of the Flames

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03-15-2014, 09:14 AM
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Eakins
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03-15-2014, 09:15 AM
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I know he was fired, but its still current in this season. And Rolston wasnt even close to an NHL coach...

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03-15-2014, 09:24 AM
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I don't think Bylsma is the worst coach in the NHL, but he might be the most overrated (outside of Pittsburgh). National media loves the guy; Kathryn Tappen has called him "amazing" and "brilliant" in recent months.

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03-15-2014, 09:25 AM
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Therrien has topped this list throughout his career.

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03-15-2014, 09:32 AM
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Capuano, Oates and Therrien.

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03-15-2014, 09:36 AM
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I'd vote for Barry Trotz. At least the other bad coaches are bad in an obvious way. This guy consistently delivers underwhelming results year after year that are just good enough to leave some hope for next year, when the same thing happens. To top it off, he plays that boring, shot-blocking Tortorella style hockey and he seems to be into that discipline & curfew crap (which probably chases good players away)

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03-15-2014, 09:43 AM
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Capuano, Eakins and Oates come to mind.

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03-15-2014, 09:56 AM
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did therrien win the cup with the penss?

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03-15-2014, 10:00 AM
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Paul MacLean needs more love in this thread:

Playing Greening-Neil-Smith far more often that he should;
Playing Chris Phillips on the powerplay;
Playing Cowen with Gryba, a disaster of slowness;
Having a great line with MacArthur-Turris-Ryan then splitting it up for...who knows why?
Head games with Ryan, to the point Ryan complained about icetime to media in between periods;
Starting Anderson when Lehner was on a super hot streak and Player of the Week;
Not starting Lehner in close to a month, then not giving him a second chance when (shock!) he show signs of rust;
Having Phillips out in 4 v 4 overtime;
Line blender.

And just an extremely cavalier attitude about everything when he's won only one playoff round in a lockout-shortened season.
Bleh.

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