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08-26-2014, 01:04 PM
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Good to see they are thinking big, but a little less on the ugly side would have been nice too.
I have to agree. That isn't particularly nice to look at. Hopefully it isn't the crown jewel of the skyline for long.

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Notice the sign on the building in the middle of this image. Katz says that announcement to come. #yeg

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08-26-2014, 01:09 PM
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Might not be iconic but I don't think it looks too bad to me.

Maybe I just don't have an eye for architecture.

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08-26-2014, 01:12 PM
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That spire is going to be nice to look at from the south when you have the ATB tower, Telus Christmas trees and High Level Bridge to look at, too. Lights for days.

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08-26-2014, 01:14 PM
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I like it. Will stand out in a good way.

Nicole Weisberg @NicoleWeisberg 50m

Crown of tower will be lit. Colours will change. Being called the "beacon of Edmonton". #yeg

Michael Parkatti @mparkatti 51m

To put this tower into context, it'll be about 53% taller than Edmonton's current tallest, Epcor HQ. 229m vs 150m.

mastermaq WAM indicates the height of the @stantec tower could still go up. Capable of another two office floors & the cap.

Bill Mah @MahSpace 28m

Still designing a cap which will add to height.

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08-26-2014, 01:18 PM
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Unveiling was interesting. Curtain goes down, a few polite claps, and silence...

Gawking at the Render looking like the Westin sheathed in glass propped up on the Telus building.

Anybody here critiquing the Bow should be honest about what this is looking like.

There go any dreams for iconic surroundings..

High, yes, but mundane, yes.
Agreed. Underwhelming.

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08-26-2014, 01:18 PM
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So just for reference, what are the list of current tallest buildings in Western Canada? Curious how this compares to Calgary and Vancouver.

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08-26-2014, 01:19 PM
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I have to agree. That isn't particularly nice to look at. Hopefully it isn't the crown jewel of the skyline for long.
Which begs the question what is worth than an ugly plain tower?

An ugly plain tower that will be seen from any future vantage point.

That this one even looks like a Frankenstein build makes matters worse.

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08-26-2014, 01:23 PM
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The Benefit of that hotel render is it looks so bad other towers might look better in comparison.

Is it asking too much to have something even approaching the beauty of say Manulife?

This is the latest chapter in Edmonton accepting less. Only now in buildings that will dominate our skyline for years to come.

Why did we build an iconic arena again if this junk is the backdrop?

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08-26-2014, 01:26 PM
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Replacement being Replacement.

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08-26-2014, 01:28 PM
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The Benefit of that hotel render is it looks so bad other towers might look better in comparison.

Is it asking too much to have something even approaching the beauty of say Manulife?

This is the latest chapter in Edmonton accepting less. Only now in buildings that will dominate our skyline for years to come.

Why did we build an iconic arena again if this junk is the backdrop?
I think it has more to do with the current architecture "trend". A lot of new buildings are of these kind of glass shape designs. We will never get something like New York which has a majority of its building int the 30's-40's style of skyscraper building with stone and bricks that probably looked ugly to a generation at one point, but is now a timely classic.

Once something sticks around long enough, its considered classic.

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08-26-2014, 01:33 PM
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So just for reference, what are the list of current tallest buildings in Western Canada? Curious how this compares to Calgary and Vancouver.
I believe the Bow in Calgary is 238m and Brookfield place is 249m

This one is 224-228M, but that does not include the cap, and may still be increased a few more office floors.

Vancouver's tallest is the Shangri-La which is 201m. Airport height restrictions.

Of course Vancouver's downtown is leap years ahead of both Edmonton's and Calgary's, and isn't a ghost town after office hours. Albertans love their suburban homes with backyards and parking lots, whereas Vancouver's physical space limitations is forcing it to build up and higher density.

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08-26-2014, 01:34 PM
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I think it has more to do with the current architecture "trend". A lot of new buildings are of these kind of glass shape designs. We will never get something like New York which has a majority of its building int the 30's-40's style of skyscraper building with stone and bricks that probably looked ugly to a generation at one point, but is now a timely classic.

Once something sticks around long enough, its considered classic.
Yeah, I don't think there is a day when giant faceless walls are considered timeless. Architecture criticism was about the art aspect back in the 30s, now it's just slight variations of box cutter designs. Nothing artistic or unique.

All this thing looks like is a rectangle condo building with a less rectangular condo building on top of it. Like a kid putting two lego structures together.

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Which begs the question what is worth than an ugly plain tower?

An ugly plain tower that will be seen from any future vantage point.

That this one even looks like a Frankenstein build makes matters worse.
Not ugly, IMO. Just relatively plain and a wasted opportunity. Might look a lot better in real life, though.

No accounting for taste and all that but it seems an unnecessarily "safe" design.

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Are these renderings set in stone? or are they just placeholders till the real design is ready? They are less than inspiring.

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On this, he's bang-on.

This is a generic, nondescript high rise stuck on top of another, even more generic and nondescript high rise.

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Are these renderings set in stone? or are they just placeholders till the real design is ready? They are less than inspiring.
considering he hoopla around the announcement, that's probably what it will look like

some of you probably have kids that could build something better looking out of lego.

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Sounds like a gigantic missed opportunity.

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I think it has more to do with the current architecture "trend". A lot of new buildings are of these kind of glass shape designs. We will never get something like New York which has a majority of its building int the 30's-40's style of skyscraper building with stone and bricks that probably looked ugly to a generation at one point, but is now a timely classic.

Once something sticks around long enough, its considered classic.
The Bow is classic and has set the more recent precedent that other towers should aspire to.

Could you imagine as well how a design like that would frame the arena.

If the Bow was designed for Edmonton everybody would be saying YES!!!

if this Stantec tower was being projected for Calgary everybody would be going next...

That's the honest view.

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Well would you look at that, it looks like this rendering kicked everyone's inferiority complex into overdrive.

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Nope. No economic spinoff as a result of the arena. None.

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Well would you look at that, it looks like this rendering kicked everyone's inferiority complex into overdrive.
Make sense since, as we know, all artistic renderings translate 100% into reality. I'm sure seeing 200 meters of building going up will lead to a universal reaction of, "meh".

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Nope. No economic spinoff as a result of the arena. None.
Is it too late to put that 15-metre expansion doughnut on Rexall?

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Make sense since, as we know, all artistic renderings translate 100% into reality. I'm sure seeing 200 meters of building going up will lead to a universal reaction of, "meh".

If they built a castle made of boobs and fudge people would be complaining that the one in Calgary is gonna have bacon bits.

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