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05-12-2014, 11:29 PM
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Forecheck is something we don't have and we need it in the worst way.
QFT. we go east and west too much, not enough north and south on this team IMO. I mean i thought coots would be putting up more points now. and you cant even give me that "his line mates stuff", hes gets plenty of PP time on the 2nd unit. now i dont have the stats but does anyone know how many PPG's he has this season??

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QFT. we go east and west too much, not enough north and south on this team IMO. I mean i thought coots would be putting up more points now. and you cant even give me that "his line mates stuff", hes gets plenty of PP time on the 2nd unit. now i dont have the stats but does anyone know how many PPG's he has this season??
Well then.

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QFT. we go east and west too much, not enough north and south on this team IMO. I mean i thought coots would be putting up more points now. and you cant even give me that "his line mates stuff", hes gets plenty of PP time on the 2nd unit. now i dont have the stats but does anyone know how many PPG's he has this season??


Wait...you were serious?

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QFT. we go east and west too much, not enough north and south on this team IMO. I mean i thought coots would be putting up more points now. and you cant even give me that "his line mates stuff", hes gets plenty of PP time on the 2nd unit. now i dont have the stats but does anyone know how many PPG's he has this season??
Wanna know how I know you don't watch the Flyers?

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i watch all 82, my mistake, but coots has had some time on the second unit. i apologize being as the flyers are pretty much a one unit team

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and for the record, my opinion on 14 has changed. i was all on the trade bandwagon. not anymore, i just occasionally watch his junior highlight real and find myself scratching my head after

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i watch all 82, my mistake, but coots has had some time on the second unit. i apologize being as the flyers are pretty much a one unit team
Yeah, he did have some time, but not all that much really. He's been on the ice roughly ~15% of our powerplay time.

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and without getting flamed would any of you taken Dougie Hamilton instead? he looks pretty good right now, granted he's playing with Chara

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and without getting flamed would any of you taken Dougie Hamilton instead? he looks pretty good right now, granted he's playing with Chara
Hamilton doesn't exactly fix our D situation, and without Couturier we aren't even a playoff team this year. Giroux, Lecavalier, Schenn, Hall down the middle would've been a disaster outside the top line, and Hamilton isn't good enough defensively to make up for what's lost without Couturier.

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QFT. we go east and west too much, not enough north and south on this team IMO. I mean i thought coots would be putting up more points now. and you cant even give me that "his line mates stuff", hes gets plenty of PP time on the 2nd unit. now i dont have the stats but does anyone know how many PPG's he has this season??
Why would you think he'd be producing more? His production is keeping right up with other players his own age, and he's doing it with minimal PP time and very difficult minutes.

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Did someone call Downie a smart player? wtf is going on around here.

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Hamilton is looking awesome in these playoffs.

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Raffl is a monster on the forecheck.
he is ok, one of the few players that can forecheck cause of his speed. The flyers are not a fast team hence lacking in forecheck.

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Hamilton is looking awesome in these playoffs.
Hamilton is a lot of flash, but he would be getting exposed right now if he was playing for any other team than Boston. Chara and the rest of the team are really protecting him. For the record though, I wouldn't take Hamilton over Couturier. In fact, the only player from 2011 that I would even consider taking over Couturier for the Flyers would be Landeskog. Without Couturier, this team wasn't even getting a sniff at the playoffs this year.

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Hamilton is a lot of flash, but he would be getting exposed right now if he was playing for any other team than Boston. Chara and the rest of the team are really protecting him. For the record though, I wouldn't take Hamilton over Couturier. In fact, the only player from 2011 that I would even consider taking over Couturier for the Flyers would be Landeskog. Without Couturier, this team wasn't even getting a sniff at the playoffs this year.
so? There's nothing wrong with that. He's 20 years old. Most 20 year old shouldnt be playing top end minutes, especially defenseman

he'll still turn into a stud

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so? There's nothing wrong with that. He's 20 years old. Most 20 year old shouldnt be playing top end minutes, especially defenseman

he'll still turn into a stud
I never said there was anything wrong with it. I was just pointing it out to the people that prefer Hamilton to Couturier. Couturier hasn't received any protection early on in his career, yet he's still having a bigger impact on his team.

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Decent Couts article posted today on BSH...

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...-review-flyers

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I think he will do better next year with a good and full camp under his belt with a new coach that actually gets people to practice. He needs to get up his speed a bit and a tad more weight.

PP units:

Hartnell-Giroux-Simmonds
Streit-Voracek

Akeson-Schenn-Read
MacD-Couturier

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I want him and schenn to compete for that second line centre position, maybe schen could be moved to the wing as well and we could have something like this:

Schenn-giroux-trade
Simmonds-couts-voracek
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And the fourth line doesn't matter for this

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I want him and schenn to compete for that second line centre position, maybe schen could be moved to the wing as well and we could have something like this:

Schenn-giroux-trade
Simmonds-couts-voracek
Akeson-Laughton-fa

And the fourth line doesn't matter for this
I've been dying to have Voracek with Couturier since his rookie year. Giroux will put up points playing with anybody who has a decent amount of skill, so I don't think it would be a bad idea to split them up. I really wouldn't mind something like this:

Schenn-Giroux-Akeson
Read-Couturier-Voracek
Hartnell-Laughton-Simmonds

And that's if we don't actively search for a 1LW through trade or UFA.


For the PP units, I'd go:

PP1: Simmonds-Giroux-Hartnell-Streit-Voracek
PP2: Akeson-Giroux-Couturier-Gostisbehere/MacDonald-BSchenn

Put Couturier in front of the net to be a screen.

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Berube has done questionable things with roster decisions for dmen, but one place where he deserves praise is his handling of Couturier. He didn't punish him for inevitable mistakes while drawing very hard minutes, relied on him heavily, and generally recognized that Couturier is an vital player. Couturier took a step forward this year as a result.

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Decent Couts article posted today on BSH...

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...-review-flyers
Vincent 'Corsi Killer' Lecavalier strikes again...

Schenn, Simmonds, Couturier... who hasn't he dragged under 50% this year.

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I've been dying to have Voracek with Couturier since his rookie year. Giroux will put up points playing with anybody who has a decent amount of skill, so I don't think it would be a bad idea to split them up. I really wouldn't mind something like this:

Schenn-Giroux-Akeson
Read-Couturier-Voracek
Hartnell-Laughton-Simmonds

And that's if we don't actively search for a 1LW through trade or UFA.


For the PP units, I'd go:

PP1: Simmonds-Giroux-Hartnell-Streit-Voracek
PP2: Akeson-Giroux-Couturier-Gostisbehere/MacDonald-BSchenn

Put Couturier in front of the net to be a screen.
I wouldn't give Akeson first line time just yet, second line might be a better place for him to start the season, if he does well move him up

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I wouldn't give Akeson first line time just yet, second line might be a better place for him to start the season, if he does well move him up
I know what you're saying, but it's not like Pat Maroon is a "first liner" either in Anaheim. The thing about having great players like Giroux or Getzlaf is that it allows you to have some flexibility up and down the lineup.

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I've been dying to have Voracek with Couturier since his rookie year. Giroux will put up points playing with anybody who has a decent amount of skill, so I don't think it would be a bad idea to split them up. I really wouldn't mind something like this:

Schenn-Giroux-Akeson
Read-Couturier-Voracek
Hartnell-Laughton-Simmonds

And that's if we don't actively search for a 1LW through trade or UFA.


For the PP units, I'd go:

PP1: Simmonds-Giroux-Hartnell-Streit-Voracek
PP2: Akeson-Giroux-Couturier-Gostisbehere/MacDonald-BSchenn

Put Couturier in front of the net to be a screen.
Although its not a bad idea i dont agree with putting Voracek with Couts. I think Couts is a fairly good playmaker and possession player himself and doesnt really need a guy like Voracek. I think that if you gave Couts a decent RW that can play hockey and score goals along with some more offensive zone starts, I think he could put up 50+ points. I think it would be better to put Voracek's puck carrying and playmaking ability with players that need that to succeed (e.g. Vinny, Hartsy, Simmonds, Schenn).

Assuming we somehow get a 1LW.

XXXXX-Giroux-Simmonds
Hartnell-Schenn-Voracek
Read-Coutourier-Akeson/UFA
Rasmussen-Laughton-Raffl

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I know what you're saying, but it's not like Pat Maroon is a "first liner" either in Anaheim. The thing about having great players like Giroux or Getzlaf is that it allows you to have some flexibility up and down the lineup.
That's a good point, he might play a lot better with giroux than he would with someone else

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