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03-21-2014, 10:43 PM
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Derek Stepan

So according to MSG he has 13 points in his last 12 games. He's on pace to 55 points, with very good defense. If he were shooting his career average he'd be on pace for 61 points with the same very good defense. No he's not flashy, yes he gets 2nd assists sometimes, but the guy produces and plays solid defenses. Yet reading this board you'd think he's a bum.

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I think the shortened season raised people's expectations of him.

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Yes. He was much better last year. I don't think it's out of the question that he returns to that. I think this is his 2nd best year as a pro. Last year he was picking corners and just looking really confident with his shot. I think if he gets his confidence back he can be a very good player.

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Yes. He was much better last year. I don't think it's out of the question that he returns to that. I think this is his 2nd best year as a pro. Last year he was picking corners and just looking really confident with his shot. I think if he gets his confidence back he can be a very good player.
Agree 100% I think some has to do with the holdout some with the new coach, but I think the Step since the olympic break represents him a lot more accurately than before. I think next year he has a huge breakout.

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Am I the only one that thinks he can be a poor man's Bergeron? I mean, I think he can be a 60 point scorer that plays a really good 2 way game. Obviously not as good Bergeron.

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It's definitely nice to see Stepan come alive if not just for the benefit of the team but my own sanity and not having to hear over and over again how much he sucks on these boards.

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He's a good player, and in my opinion, more 'core' than Callahan was.
If he centre's great wingers, he could be one of the top centreman in the league. More realistically, he will be a 60 to 70 point player, and that is not anything to be unhappy with when you consider how he keeps proving his defensive awareness game after game. People say Stepan is a slow skater, but I watched him chase a player down on a backcheck a few games ago, where he messed up their offense right in the crease. To me, it was a highlight of the game. That kind of thing is supremely important.

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Stepan isn't that slow... He's just an ugly skater. His stride makes him look like he's skating in mud but he's got a decent pace.

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03-21-2014, 11:14 PM
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He's overrated. I still think we should try to package him for a top center prospect.

He's never going to be a #1

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I've been saying it all along, he can absolutely keep up with the play, he's no Brad. But if he dedicated himself to improving his skating it could do wonders for him. Also I see him a lot more like a Mikko Koivu than a Bergeron as Bergy's a bit more physical and more of a shooter, Steps game is more subtle. But I actually think he can be better than Koivu, not certain he will but steps one of my favorite players so I might also be a little inclined to see what I want.

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For a player of his style/calibre, he seriously needs to get better on face-offs.

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He's overrated. I still think we should try to package him for a top center prospect.

He's never going to be a #1
Overrated by whom? Most Rangers fans have been yelling about how he's a bum all season long.

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03-21-2014, 11:36 PM
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He's overrated. I still think we should try to package him for a top center prospect.

He's never going to be a #1
He's going to be a #1 center. He will score 60+ points a year in his prime along with stellar defense. He will never be Crosby or Malkin or Stamkos, but he will be a #1 center. You don't just trade a kid like Stepan when he's 23.

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He's going to be a #1 center. He will score 60+ points a year in his prime along with stellar defense. He will never be Crosby or Malkin or Stamkos, but he will be a #1 center. You don't just trade a kid like Stepan when he's 23.
So much this.

Stepan has flaws, yes, but let's take a step back and realize that we have 23 year old, 50 point, two-way center who has shown he has the tools be a difference maker offensively.

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The thing with Stepan is he very rarely carries the play. He racks up his points by being in the right spots at the right time. He doesn't make flashy plays and won't beat the defense for a beautiful goal/assist. It takes good plays by his whole line usually for Stepan/his line mates to score. Not a knock against him, but a bonafide #1 makes things happen more often, which is why he always classified as a high end 2C/1B center.

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23 year old center who has been at almost a PPG pace since January 18th.

He was ass before the break offensively, but he never quit playing good defense. He turned up his offensive game halfway through Jan. and hasn't looked back.

He's an elite, two-way 2C at this point in his career who has shown the ability to play like a good 1C. At 23 ****ing years old (he'll be 24 in June). This dude is great and we should be thankful we have such a good player.

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The thing with Stepan is he very rarely carries the play. He racks up his points by being in the right spots at the right time. He doesn't make flashy plays and won't beat the defense for a beautiful goal/assist. It takes good plays by his whole line usually for Stepan/his line mates to score. Not a knock against him, but a bonafide #1 makes things happen more often, which is why he always classified as a high end 2C/1B center.
His two-way play constantly tilts the ice in the Rangers favor when he's out.

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23 year old center who has been at almost a PPG pace since January 18th.

He was ass before the break offensively, but he never quit playing good defense.

He's an elite, two-way 2C at this point in his career who has shown the ability to play like a good 1C. At 23 ****ing years old (he'll be 24 in June). This dude is great and we should be thankful we have such a good player.
Who would have thought in 08 that he'd be a better player than DZ?

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Of course Steps isn't the elite center we'd expect after his hat-trick debut or after the shortend season who can be packaged for a good get back, but he could be an excellent #2 one day, and plays great defense as a F and is doing a fine job as our current #1 with Nash and played very well and improved greatly playing with Gabby

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Of course Steps isn't the elite center we'd expect after his hat-trick debut or after the shortend season who can be packaged for a good get back, but he could be an excellent #2 one day, and plays great defense as a F and is doing a fine job as our current #1 with Nash and played very well and improved greatly playing with Gabby
He's ALREADY an excellent number 2.

The question is, is his ceiling 60 points or 70 points? That will decide how good of a 1C he will be.

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The thing with Stepan is he very rarely carries the play. He racks up his points by being in the right spots at the right time. He doesn't make flashy plays and won't beat the defense for a beautiful goal/assist. It takes good plays by his whole line usually for Stepan/his line mates to score. Not a knock against him, but a bonafide #1 makes things happen more often, which is why he always classified as a high end 2C/1B center.
Stepan was a legitimate catalyst last year - Nash being at the top of his game helps, but Stepan was a lot more involved in the play physically and on the forecheck, and it made him a lot more effective. He's been getting a lot more involved as of late and is starting to shoot the puck more, which was another aspect of his game last year that was better. Stepan looked incredibly confident in his shot last year. Hopefully that confidence starts to come back down the stretch.

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Stepan was a legitimate catalyst last year - Nash being at the top of his game helps, but Stepan was a lot more involved in the play physically and on the forecheck, and it made him a lot more effective. He's been getting a lot more involved as of late and is starting to shoot the puck more, which was another aspect of his game last year that was better. Stepan looked incredibly confident in his shot last year. Hopefully that confidence starts to come back down the stretch.
He was picking corners. His shot looked honestly better than Nash's at times last year.

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Stepan was a legitimate catalyst last year - Nash being at the top of his game helps, but Stepan was a lot more involved in the play physically and on the forecheck, and it made him a lot more effective. He's been getting a lot more involved as of late and is starting to shoot the puck more, which was another aspect of his game last year that was better. Stepan looked incredibly confident in his shot last year. Hopefully that confidence starts to come back down the stretch.
Yep last year he seemed to have more jump to his game. Idk if its his conditioning but he just seems a little sluggish and soft this year. He has such a good feel for the game though which helps him put up points. Man if he just could skate a little bit better he would be a beast.

He has a good shot, but has trouble creating room for himself to get it off. Every now and then he get thats space and lets a laser go. The reason we are all disappointed with his play this year is we saw him take it to another level last year.

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His two-way play constantly tilts the ice in the Rangers favor when he's out.
I never said it didn't. Was simply saying he isn't good at creating something out of nothing. A lot of his goals this year come from smart plays from his whole line.

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I never said it didn't. Was simply saying he isn't good at creating something out of nothing. A lot of his goals this year come from smart plays from his whole line.
Fair enough. I'm just saying that his solid play in all zones sets up his teammates to be in the situations where they can score. He's not a passenger on the line by any means.

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