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10-01-2003, 12:35 PM
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Waiver draft

TSN has a list of exposed players... link


Two names jump out at me... Todd Simpson and Todd Harvey. Simpson is a reasonably cheap (1.5mm) upgrade over Vish and Ward. Harvey is a major upgrade on the 4th line over Severson and he's not that expensive... 1.3mm.

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TSN has a list of exposed players... link


Two names jump out at me... Todd Simpson and Todd Harvey. Simpson is a reasonably cheap (1.5mm) upgrade over Vish and Ward. Harvey is a major upgrade on the 4th line over Severson and he's not that expensive... 1.3mm.
haha we still have the rights to nikoli tsulgin??? crazy didn't we draft him like 10 years ago?

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Two names jump out at me... Todd Simpson and Todd Harvey. Simpson is a reasonably cheap (1.5mm) upgrade over Vish and Ward. Harvey is a major upgrade on the 4th line over Severson and he's not that expensive... 1.3mm.
1.3 million IS expensive for a 4th liner ... heck, it's more than Kariya makes!!!

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10-01-2003, 01:11 PM
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Harvey is hard nosed but extremely injury prone
Dan Bylsma was exposed so the team could protect Burnett apparently
Other Ex-Ducks:
Steve Shields
Rob Valicevic
Pavel Trnka
Patrick Traverse
J.F. Damphousse
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I figure Bylsma was left unprotected to Johnson, not Burnett, could make it. Probably since he's injured, and if we lose Johnson, we lose Bylsma's replacement for however long he's injured. If we lose Bylsma, we still have Johnson all year.

Some pretty big names, like Joseph, Bure, and Boucher. A surprise was that Pierre Turgeon is protected. It was my indication Dallas didn't want him at all. Maybe they think he'll rebound.

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1.3 million IS expensive for a 4th liner ... heck, it's more than Kariya makes!!!
Who would rather have on our 4th line, Thomas or Harvey? That way the kids get a chance to play.

I think it wouldn't be a bad move to get him... like you've all said he is an upgrade at that position...

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Nobody is going to take Bylsma considering he is injured for another 4-6 months.

We aren't going to take Harvey or anybody else.

It's funny that Nikolai Tsulygin is still on our list though
(1993 2nd rd pick...22 NHL games in 1996/1997...been in Russia since 1998)

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Hey how about Boulton... he appears to be a legit enforcer...is it worth the money for a guy with more experience over a guy like Burnett?

Also, im surprised boucher is left out there... maybe a team like the Avs might pick him up...(i hope not, i have aebicher in my fantasy league)

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I'll take Chris Therien or Todd Simpson over Ward every day of the week and twice on Sunday. They might not fit into the budget though. I say to Brian pick up Simpson or Therien and expose Ward.

Then pack Vish and a draft to Edmonton for Comrie - ahh the pleasures of being a computer GM.

As for Harvey thanks but no thanks.

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Maxim Balmochnykh anyone?

I don't expect any teams to make any moves. If you take a player, you have to expose one of your own and I doubt there is any interest with this list.

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I'll take Chris Therien or Todd Simpson over Ward every day of the week and twice on Sunday. They might not fit into the budget though. I say to Brian pick up Simpson or Therien and expose Ward.

Then pack Vish and a draft to Edmonton for Comrie - ahh the pleasures of being a computer GM.

As for Harvey thanks but no thanks.
ward is on contract for 2 years at 500,000 the first year and 525,000 the second...thats perfect for a 7th defensmen...we dont need a million dollar 7th defensemen.

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According to today's LA Times, Murray said it was "doubtful" that he would take a player in the waiver draft.

The Times also talks about how hard Getzlaf is working to try to make the team, and that Murray said that there is room in the budget for a Getzlaf contract...

but what I was wondering is why the LA Times has repeatedly said ,over the last week or so, that Getzlaf and Lupul are competing for the last spot on the team. Is this just an LA Times view on the situation, or has a Mighty Ducks source told them that they are in competition for one spot?

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Harvery jumped out at me too, but just as a thought.

I like Harold Druken, I got to watch him play in Vancouver, he was a game changing kind of guy, high energy, dont know why the Canucks gave up on him, hed be good for cincy, but not at the expense of exposing someone. Just dreaming.

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ward is on contract for 2 years at 500,000 the first year and 525,000 the second...thats perfect for a 7th defensmen...we dont need a million dollar 7th defensemen.
Only problem with this statement is that Simpson is good enough to be a 5th defenseman on this team. He and Sauer would be a great 3rd pair. Keep Ward as the 7th and trade Vish. Or keep Vish as the 7th and hope he finally grows into some of that "potential" we're always hearing about. Either way the club gets a lot better and deeper, IMO.

Unfortunately, like you said, Murray is on record saying he won't take a player.

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If Murray said that it is "doubtful" that the Ducks will take anyone in the Waiver Draft it's not the same as if he said the Ducks would not take anyone. He left himself some wriggle room.

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travis green anyone?

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this is pretty sad... vish has truely turned into last yrs Trnka...

I just hope Vish has put some dedication in the offseason... he really needed to bulk up about 10 lbs to work better in the corners and especially in front of the net. I still have hope that he becomes a Fetisov-type of player.

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this is pretty sad... vish has truely turned into last yrs Trnka...
Is it any surprise that a defenseman getting 8-13 minutes from his coach is thought of that way? Hope doesn't win hockey games...

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imho the problem with vish is, that he was drafted very high (5th? overall). the ducks passed on many good players to grab him.... so it is clear that everybody has high expectations on this kid.

if vish was drafted 2nd/3rd round, less fans would complain about his performance on ice.

the only sad thing is, that the ducks indeed could have picked him up in the 2nd or 3rd round.

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this is pretty sad... vish has truely turned into last yrs Trnka...

I just hope Vish has put some dedication in the offseason... he really needed to bulk up about 10 lbs to work better in the corners and especially in front of the net. I still have hope that he becomes a Fetisov-type of player.
Fetisov was as good as he was partly because he was so intelligent. Vish may or may not be a smart person, I have no idea, but he's not a smart hockey player at all.
He looks to me as if he has a couple scenarios in his head at all times and is always trying to figure out the correct way to react. It leaves him behind the play. There's no instinct to him.

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ward is on contract for 2 years at 500,000 the first year and 525,000 the second...thats perfect for a 7th defensmen...we dont need a million dollar 7th defensemen.
Therien would be a #3-4 D-Man on the Ducks. We are still lacking a big punishing D-Man but his salary will keep him in Philly (2.6 Mil)
Simpson would at least be a #5 D-Man - Before Vish or Ward but again his salary is probably the stumbling block.

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I still wouldn't move Vish unless it was a great deal coming the other way. As long as he's been in Anaheim, he's still a young d-man. Defensemen often take a good while to develop their games at the NHL level, and very often draw the ire of the hometown fans before ultimately winning them over. Pronger and Jovo are two that immediately come to mind, although this isn't to suggest Vish will be as good as those two. I don't think Vish is untouchable, but I don't think you bring in Simpson or Therien and deal Vish off unless you have one hell of a deal in place. He still has upside.

I don't see Murray making any moves, unless someone takes Bylsma. There just aren't any real glaring holes in the back end of the line up that one of the availiable guys could fill, especially when you consider the lineup with the injured back in it. I still wouldn't be annoyed if they picked up Harvey or Simpson. Both are solid vets.

I see Shields getting picked up somewhere as a backup. Don't see Colorado thinking they have any better of a shot with Boucher than they do with Aebisher...for better or worse.

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I see Shields getting picked up somewhere as a backup. Don't see Colorado thinking they have any better of a shot with Boucher than they do with Aebisher...for better or worse.
On the contrary, they do have a better shot with Boucher than they do Abeischer IMO. Boucher is a proven playoff goalie, while, Abeischer is not. Boucher will do quite well as a starter behind the best offense in the league.

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On the contrary, they do have a better shot with Boucher than they do Abeischer IMO. Boucher is a proven playoff goalie, while, Abeischer is not. Boucher will do quite well as a starter behind the best offense in the league.
You think that. I MIGHT agree with you. But I highly doubt the Avs feel the same way. I think they are gonna give Abby a shot to win them over. They'll stick with him till at least christmas, I think.

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On the contrary, they do have a better shot with Boucher than they do Abeischer IMO. Boucher is a proven playoff goalie, while, Abeischer is not. Boucher will do quite well as a starter behind the best offense in the league.
You're on crack, man. Boucher hasn't done SQUAT since his rookie year. He was f'ing AWFUL last year for the Yotes. He'll have trouble even sticking as a backup anywhere.

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