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Would you do a 1-for-1 swap of Couturier for Weber

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03-21-2014, 12:49 PM
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Would you do a 1-for-1 swap of Couturier for Weber

Purely for entertainment, and yes I know the value is not close, I am wondering if there are any fans on this board that wouldn't swap Couturier for Weber straight up; you know, for fun.

edit: jacked up coots name in the title, mods please fix it


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03-21-2014, 12:50 PM
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Holy crap is that a tough question.

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03-21-2014, 12:57 PM
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Nope. Our current D is not great, but has potential to be very good in the near future. If Couts goes, there is a huge hole no one on our current roster can fill.

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Nope. Our current D is not great, but has potential to be very good in the near future. If Couts goes, there is a huge hole no one on our current roster can fill.
This is my thinking too. I don't believe that you absolutely have to have a Norris level defenseman to win the Cup. The big challenge will be to find Timo's replacement when he retires, and I think you can do that without giving up Couturier.

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Yes, Weber is already a perennial Norris Trophy nominee while we are hoping Couturier becomes one in regards to the Selke.

Number 1 Defensemen > Potential Number 2 Center

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I said no because of Weber's contract.

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Yes. Weber is a true, franchise defender and should be for the next 5+ years. Couturier is good, but the whomever replaces him would be more than adequate with Weber anchoring the defense.

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03-21-2014, 01:06 PM
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I'd do it.

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My first reaction "never ever ever". After thinking for a second, yes of course.

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of course you make this swap

it's much easier to find/acquire a player like coots when compared with weber.

I do believe he has more g/a/pts than coots this year also, no production is lost.

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Obviously, but only of Timonen retires. Otherwise, we'd have to shred a lot of salary to be able to fit Weber.

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salary concerns ignored,,,

Of course YES

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of course you make this swap

it's much easier to find/acquire a player like coots when compared with weber.

I do believe he has more g/a/pts than coots this year also, no production is lost.
Weber: 67GP 16G 28A 44P
Couturier: 69GP 10 goals 25A 35P


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Nope, not a chance. The Flyers are more than a Shea Weber away from being a serious Stanley Cup threat. While Weber might be in his prime right now, he'll only have a maximum of 5, maybe 6 years left before the decline hits and for a physical player like him, the decline will be noticeable.

Couturier, on the other hand, has about 13 years before his decline starts. He's just starting to really ramp up his game and when he finally reaches his prime, he's just going to be an absolute nightmare to play against.

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Nope, not a chance. The Flyers are more than a Shea Weber away from being a serious Stanley Cup threat. While Weber might be in his prime right now, he'll only have a maximum of 5, maybe 6 years left before the decline hits and for a physical player like him, the decline will be noticeable.

Couturier, on the other hand, has about 13 years before his decline starts. He's just starting to really ramp up his game and when he finally reaches his prime, he's just going to be an absolute nightmare to play against.
Really?

I think they EXACTLY a Shea Weber away.

Seriously, look at their roster...top 12 forwards (set, they are deep and defensively sound)

Goaltender: Not perfect, but solid, .915 SV % is fine

D: Add Weber to that D. COMPLETELY transformed.

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Yes. Weber is a true, franchise defender and should be for the next 5+ years.
But his contact still has 12 years left on it.

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03-21-2014, 01:19 PM
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For Weber, yeah.

Solves part of the problem with too many centers.
Weber-Streit/Kimmo (he'd come back)
McDonald-Schenn
Coburn-Alt

Shed salary as needed.

Weber-Coburn/Streit
Coburn/Kimmo-Gus
McDonald-Schenn

Another option


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Really?

I think they EXACTLY a Shea Weber away.
totally agree

did we forget so soon the similar effect Pronger had?

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No question you make this trade. Defensemen like Weber are extremely rare.
While a forward with Couturier's talents are hard to come by, you can at least come close to replacing him with a straight defensive forward with little to no scoring ability.
Quite simply... a potential elite two-way forward should never be compared with an established elite defenseman in their prime.

I can't help but be reminded of how much this defense lost when Pronger went down. Aside from the 35+ contract and what we gave up for him, Pronger was a beast on the ice and made up for any weaknesses in the other pairings (or his own pairing if you are one of those Carle haters out there). Can many of us even remember the 3rd pairing from the cup finals in 2010?

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But his contact still has 12 years left on it.
But there is no NTC/NMC in it. And a good chunk of the actual money will already have been paid. He actually could be tradeable.

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Fixed the title.

Tough call. The easy answer is yes, but the Flyers are closer to contending than some of you think.

I don't think the Flyers need a franchise defenseman to win the Cup, but it sure would be nice to have one this year. I'm only on the fence because of what would have to be done to accommodate Weber coming in, though.

In a vacuum, one-for-one is a no brainer.

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No. Maybe Bobby Ryan. Maybe.

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An elite shutdown center is just as important as an elite 2 way dman to a Cup winning team. It's hard to say no to Weber, like REALLY HARD, but I think I'd keep Couts.

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Yes without hesitation. Just look at the cup winners from the last like 7 years. I like Couturier but I would give up almost anyone to get a true #1 on this team.

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I think that it's more important for a team to have an elite no.1 dman like Weber than it is to have an elite 2-way C like Coots. Then you conside our organizational depth at C it's a no brainer if it wasn't. Looking at our depth chart, if you don't make this trade then you've already been fired before you can articulate that and replaced with someone who's got a brain.

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