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03-26-2014, 11:09 AM
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Only saw him play against Northeastern (3 goals) and Providence (2 goals) so he looked like he was easily the best forward on that team. He can fly but his size is really concerning right now.

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03-26-2014, 11:11 AM
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I'd say to get him to bulk up over the off-season and then along with that, make sure his skating is up to par with the extra weight added. If need be, even add him to the Phantoms for some more time to play before bringing him up?

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03-26-2014, 11:15 AM
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I'd say to get him to bulk up over the off-season and then along with that, make sure his skating is up to par with the extra weight added. If need be, even add him to the Phantoms for some more time to play before bringing him up?
This guy is Phantoms bound next season anyways. He probably isnt going to beat anyone out in the top-9 and he probably isnt good enough defensively to play on the 4th line

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03-26-2014, 11:16 AM
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He primarily played first-line center for UNH this season. He's periodically played left wing but, at this stage in his career, is more effective as a play-maker.
Really? I saw a bunch of websites said C/LW and a few said just LW..

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03-26-2014, 11:22 AM
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Either way, if he plans on making it to the NHL and play on this team he's going to need to play W because he's certainly not making it as a center.

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03-26-2014, 11:38 AM
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Really? I saw a bunch of websites said C/LW and a few said just LW..
I cover the team for a blog and saw every game this season. Coach Umile encouraged Goumas to work on his shot accuracy and played him on left wing some. But, at this stage, his specialty is making plays at high speed with the puck on his stick. He also improved his back-checking and team defense under the tutelage of Associate Coach Jim Tortorella.

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03-26-2014, 11:44 AM
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Nice signing. Can't lose on these college FA's.

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03-26-2014, 11:45 AM
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I cover the team for a blog and saw every game this season. Coach Umile encouraged Goumas to work on his shot accuracy and played him on left wing some. But, at this stage, his specialty is making plays at high speed with the puck on his stick. He also improved his back-checking and team defense under the tutelage of Associate Coach Jim Tortorella.
Well if he wants a shot at the NHL he's gonna need to learn how to be effective on the wing. There is absolutely no chance he makes it on the Flyers roster as a center. Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, Lecavalier and even Laughton next season are the centers.

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I'd say to get him to bulk up over the off-season and then along with that, make sure his skating is up to par with the extra weight added. If need be, even add him to the Phantoms for some more time to play before bringing him up?
He's gonna be a Phantom not a Flyer most definitely. Not just this season but next as well. People should temper their expectations. Read was a real gem, players like him aren't a common find. If you recall he played out the end of the season with Phantoms and had a ppg. In camp Homer had him penciled in on the top line with Richards.

He has to prove himself first with the Phantoms and I'm sure if the organization thought that highly of him we'll hear something more about him.


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03-26-2014, 11:46 AM
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I assume you get to watch this guy a lot because of your location? If so, could you give us some insight of what he might be able to be at the next level?
offensive first guy. above average skater. for a guy who is small he isn't afraid to go into the dirty areas to get goals. isn't great defensively and his board work is average at best.
right now I would have to say he is going to need a full season in the AHL. I don't think he is NHL ready yet.

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03-26-2014, 11:50 AM
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I cover the team for a blog and saw every game this season. Coach Umile encouraged Goumas to work on his shot accuracy and played him on left wing some. But, at this stage, his specialty is making plays at high speed with the puck on his stick. He also improved his back-checking and team defense under the tutelage of Associate Coach Jim Tortorella.
yes that is Johns brother in case anyone was wondering. cant disagree with this additional assessment of him either. while he still could get better defensively he is miles better then he was when he was a freshman and sophmore

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I cover the team for a blog and saw every game this season. Coach Umile encouraged Goumas to work on his shot accuracy and played him on left wing some. But, at this stage, his specialty is making plays at high speed with the puck on his stick. He also improved his back-checking and team defense under the tutelage of Associate Coach Jim Tortorella.
Oh that's cool. What would you say is a realistic expectation for him? Good enough to make it to the NHL?

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I'd say to get him to bulk up over the off-season and then along with that, make sure his skating is up to par with the extra weight added. If need be, even add him to the Phantoms for some more time to play before bringing him up?
not sure hes going to bulk up much at all, he was at a major college and if he didn't bulk up while there he might be just one of those kids who cant put on weight.

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not sure hes going to bulk up much at all, he was at a major college and if he didn't bulk up while there he might be just one of those kids who cant put on weight.
This doesn't exist. Everyone can put on muscle. If you "can't" then you're doing it wrong or you some sort of disorder.

I'm a gym rat and I've had experience with lots of skinny people who according to them couldn't gain weight. That was indeed true, until I stepped in.

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This doesn't exist. Everyone can put on muscle. If you "can't" then you're doing it wrong or you some sort of disorder.

I'm a gym rat and I've had experience with lots of skinny people who according to them couldn't gain weight. That was indeed true, until I stepped in.
How do I lose body fat?

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This doesn't exist. Everyone can put on muscle. If you "can't" then you're doing it wrong or you some sort of disorder.

I'm a gym rat and I've had experience with lots of skinny people who according to them couldn't gain weight. That was indeed true, until I stepped in.
As a side note, I'd kill to be fit. But my job, distance and so on doesn't help, even if I try to eat somewhat better.

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Oh that's cool. What would you say is a realistic expectation for him? Good enough to make it to the NHL?
If I had that kind of predictive ability, I wouldn't be running a blog as a hobby.

One other observation - Goumas can play mean and nasty and is reminiscent of Nathan Gerbe in that respect. I also agree with GFHolmgren that Goumas, at least at the college level, was not afraid to go to the net and low slot for scoring opportunities.

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03-26-2014, 01:10 PM
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One to watch, obviously there's a size concern, but ya never know.

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03-26-2014, 01:29 PM
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I don't like when size is criticized, especially for a playmaker. Size in the NHL now is not as much of a problem as many seem to think. They may have more difficulty than bigger players in puck battles but you can look at Giroux and be amazed with his strength in puck battles, especially since he under 6'0". There are also others in the league that are great players under 6'0". Flyers need a skilled winger badly in their system and hopefully he becomes a useful player in the future.

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I don't like when size is criticized, especially for a playmaker. Size in the NHL now is not as much of a problem as many seem to think. They may have more difficulty than bigger players in puck battles but you can look at Giroux and be amazed with his strength in puck battles, especially since he under 6'0". There are also others in the league that are great players under 6'0". Flyers need a skilled winger badly in their system and hopefully he becomes a useful player in the future.
Exactly, I feel the NHL in general has created this rush in the past 10 years to find the largest players possible building this stigma around people who are under 200 lbs. Don't get me wrong I still think he's on the smaller end of the scale but this shouldn't be a deterrent for fans. He still has time to bulk up and what we should be focused on is how his play translates on the professional level after he puts on some more weight and plays in the AHL for a bit.

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03-26-2014, 01:42 PM
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If he ever were to make it in the NHL it would likely be in a bottom 6 role where you have to do a lot of the dirty work so size is still a possible concern here especially when also taking into consideration that his skating is just ok.

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Is this guy eligible to play this year? I know he can't play in the playoffs, and isn't really needed, just curious if he could play if maybe someone gets hurt or something.

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Is this guy eligible to play this year? I know he can't play in the playoffs, and isn't really needed, just curious if he could play if maybe someone gets hurt or something.
He could technically but I doubt he would be a move.

IIRC the Flyers only have two call up options left now that they called up Heeter & McGinn.

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He could technically but I doubt he would be a move.

IIRC the Flyers only have two call up options left now that they called up Heeter & McGinn.
Would also burn a year off his ELC. More than likely an ATO to finish the season with the ELC kicking in next season.

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UNH F Kevin Goumas has signed with the #Flyers organization. He will report to the Phantoms on an ATO today and an AHL-only deal next year.

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UNH F Kevin Goumas has signed with the #Flyers organization. He will report to the Phantoms on an ATO today and an AHL-only deal next year.
How does that work? He has to sign a new deal to be called up or something?

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