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03-26-2014, 11:05 PM
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To NYR: Justin Schultz

To EDM: Marc Staal

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Don't see why the Rangers do this.

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Don't see why the Rangers do this.
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Defensive D-man for Offensive D-man, and one is a level, if not more, higher then the other.

Definite no from the Rangers I would think, and that's no knock on Schultz. Kids good, but hasn't reached a M.Staal level yet.

Granted this is with limited viewing of both players, but based on just my knowledge of both and viewing stats. So take it as you will

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03-27-2014, 02:13 AM
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Staal may be the better D right now, but he is also injury prone.

He could also walk in the summer and sign with the Canes.

Schultz for 1 year of Staal isn't worth it imo.

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03-27-2014, 04:25 AM
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Justin Schultz isn't worth a whole lot at this point, especially considering his apparent inability to play in his own end. It's probably better to wait and see with him rather than trying to deal him.

But if you do trade him, you're not gonna get someone like Marc Staal.
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03-27-2014, 08:31 AM
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What could realistically be added to make it work? I realize Staal is the better, more proven player, but I thought contract status of the two may even things a bit.

I think Schultz being reunited with former teammate McDonagh could prove to be a very dynamic pair. With Staal I see the perfect D partner for (hopefully) Ekblad. I'd also do it as a preemptive move to help pave the way for a blockbuster with Carolina should 2 guys with the same last name be made available.

So what needs to be added to Schultz? Or is Staal simply not available?

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03-27-2014, 08:53 AM
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Staal may be the better D right now, but he is also injury prone.

He could also walk in the summer and sign with the Canes.

Schultz for 1 year of Staal isn't worth it imo.

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He is not injury prone. He did have a concussion issue but that is about it. (Unless you count catching a slapshot to the eye being injury prone).

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What could realistically be added to make it work? I realize Staal is the better, more proven player, but I thought contract status of the two may even things a bit.

I think Schultz being reunited with former teammate McDonagh could prove to be a very dynamic pair. With Staal I see the perfect D partner for (hopefully) Ekblad. I'd also do it as a preemptive move to help pave the way for a blockbuster with Carolina should 2 guys with the same last name be made available.

So what needs to be added to Schultz? Or is Staal simply not available?
If you want Staal, you need to give us actual hockey players. Being that you're coming from Edmonton and given their place in the standings, I'm unsure that's possible.

Hard pass from NYR.

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03-27-2014, 10:59 AM
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If you want Staal, you need to give us actual hockey players. Being that you're coming from Edmonton and given their place in the standings, I'm unsure that's possible.

Hard pass from NYR.
Ah yes, the needless piling on, I wasn't sure this would be a legit HF thread without some Oil bashing. Thanks for giving it some legitimacy. Taylor Hall would be lucky to crack your 4th line, right?

So being that you're such a fine evaluator of talent and trade value, what is the price tag on a good #3 D man 1 year away from free agency with a strong inclination to join his brothers at year end?

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03-27-2014, 11:06 AM
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Pass. We need to add a guy like Schultz to play with Staal, not trade Staal for a guy like that.

Plus, if he's so likely to bolt to join his brothers, why bother trying to trade for him in the first place?

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Staal may be the better D right now, but he is also injury prone.
Yeah, that nagging "puck magnet in the eye" condition.

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Ah yes, the needless piling on, I wasn't sure this would be a legit HF thread without some Oil bashing. Thanks for giving it some legitimacy. Taylor Hall would be lucky to crack your 4th line, right?

So being that you're such a fine evaluator of talent and trade value, what is the price tag on a good #3 D man 1 year away from free agency with a strong inclination to join his brothers at year end?
He's not a good #3 D-man. On almost any team but the Rangers, he's an excellent top pairing D-man.

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New York doesn't do this.

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Staal may be the better D right now, but he is also injury prone.

He could also walk in the summer and sign with the Canes.

Schultz for 1 year of Staal isn't worth it imo.

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No he isn't. Stop propagating this stupid idea. He had a concussion two years ago. Okay, it happens. Then he took a puck to the face; something which is outside the concept of "injury-prone." Anyone can take a puck to the face. If you don't want to move Schultz for "1 year of Staal" then fair enough, but don't throw in ******** myths along with it.

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To NYR: Justin Schultz

To EDM: Marc Staal

Fair value?
Staal is twice the player right now. Schultz is still extremely overrated in here due to his initial play in OKC as well as Edmonton and his UFA circumstance. He's lost on a lot of nights but in the world that is the Oilers, so are most of the guys.. I'll take Staal everyday of the week though.

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Don't see why either team does this.

Staal is important to the Rangers now.
Edmonton is going to be timid about making this deal in fear that Staal might want to join his brothers in Carolina.

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With the talk of the Canes looking to make moves with some high-profile pieces, I don't understand why the "Carolina factor" is still a thing. I think it's utter crap at this point.

Staal is one of the top candidates for our captaincy and, as far as I know, likes playing here in New York. Is it impossible? No, but I think the "certainty" everyone seems to express is ridiculous.

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I am also an Oiler fan . You have to look at the players work to date and ask why the Hell the NYR would even think about this .

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Don't see why either team does this.

Staal is important to the Rangers now.
Edmonton is going to be timid about making this deal in fear that Staal might want to join his brothers in Carolina.
With the rumours around the Canes , Maybe Edmonton could also make a trade for another Staal or 2 . I think the Canes will look at dumping salary making stall to the Canes unlikely

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With the rumours around the Canes , Maybe Edmonton could also make a trade for another Staal or 2 . I think the Canes will look at dumping salary making stall to the Canes unlikely
Finally a poster with some sense. Everyone assumes that Carolina will be lining up to hand Marc Staal a bloated salary in order to reunite the brothers. Not happening, especially if they are already looking to dump Eric/Jordan.

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I don't think it's fair value. The Rangers are pretty set on the LD with McD and Staal, but they have been playing both Klein and Diaz (both Right Side D) on the left side since the John Moore injury.

If you want the Rangers to further deplete that space, Schultz is not getting it done.

Rangers could use a top 6 LW and I think that David Perron would be a good fit.

Both have had their issues with missing games. Both seem to have gotten back to where they were headed prior to getting hurt.

Overall, I don't think I see a good fit, but Perron is a player I think the Rangers could use.

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Schultz has been a hot mess defensively for the past two years and isn't showing much improvement on that.

Offensively he has taken a step back this year, he's not even putting puck in the net on the pp.

Staal is a way more integral piece and I would assume that to make a Staal for Schultz swap the Oilers would have to provide major incentive.

I do agree with the above that Perron could be a nice fit for the Rangers though.

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If Schultz' ceiling is Jack Johnson, I don't trade him straight up for Staal, ever. And that's even as a deadline rental.

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Staal may be the better D right now, but he is also injury prone.

He could also walk in the summer and sign with the Canes.


Schultz for 1 year of Staal isn't worth it imo.

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This should be the main reason why Edmonton should be cautions with this... That and NYR doesn't touch this.

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