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John Moore or Raphael Diaz?

View Poll Results: Moore or Diaz?
John Moore 22 15.60%
Raphael Diaz 95 67.38%
Both, bench another defenseman 4 2.84%
Both, dress 7 defensemen 20 14.18%
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03-31-2014, 10:29 AM
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John Moore or Raphael Diaz?

So Moore is getting closer to game health, we've seen a deent amount of Diaz now and people I've talked to are relatively impressed. He does, however complicate our blueline by forcing a guy to play on his off-side again. Which would you rather see in the playoffs?

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Diaz. We will need his extra offensive punch in the playoffs to support McDonagh.

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Still bouncing between Diaz and dress seven... hmm.

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would let Falk go and sign Diaz as the 7th. Run the bench with 7 defensemen if necessary for certain games

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I would go with Diaz over Moore. I'm more confident in him defensively and his shot is better.

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Diaz.

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The only advantage Moore has over Diaz is contextual: Moore gives us a LHD to play with Klein. Otherwise, I'd go with Diaz, and it's not even close.

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Diaz has been great, wouldn't even mind if we traded Moore and signed Diaz for another 2 years and have him as our 6th d man until Mcilrath steps up next year, hopefully.

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Moore + Diaz. Klein can go sit in the box

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Moore + Diaz. Klein can go sit in the box
Why?

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Diaz. Very pleasantly surprised at how good he's looked.

And I like Moore.

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diaz and i really don't think there's much of an argument for taking him out of the lineup right now.

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Because he is not any good

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What a great problem to have. I'd also re-sign Diaz and let Stralman walk.

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Habs fan here. Glad you guys like Diaz.

He was a polarizing player on the Habs board. Canadiens fans are so obsessed with size and toughness that they couldn't see what Diaz brought to the game. Before Diaz had to carry Douglas Murray as his partner, he was on the ice for the least amount of Goals against per minutes played.

Sure he's on the smaller side and isn't the strongest on his feet, but his defensive game for a bottom pairing D is quite good and the fact that he can move the puck is a bonus. I was sad to see him go, especially to play Murray and Boullion over him.

Hope he gets an extended chance in New York. If you can overlook his "softness" Diaz is good 5-6 guy with excellent gap control, an active stick, good position, an above average first pass and untapped offensive in him (though I don't think he'll ever reach his offensive potential). Sometimes he lacks poise and gets pushed off the puck, but all bottom pairing guys have their deficiencies and I think Diaz's pros outweight his cons.

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Because he is not any good
This is just silly. Klein has been rock solid.

Me, I go with Moore without a doubt. I like Diaz for his offensive side, but he's way to timid on D and gets knocked off the puck easy.

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This is just silly. Klein has been rock solid.

Me, I go with Moore without a doubt. I like Diaz for his offensive side, but he's way to timid on D and gets knocked off the puck easy.
Klein has been the worst Dman on the team by a wide margin.

I know people here want to like him because they moved MDZ for him, but he's a massive disappointment.

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Habs fan here. Glad you guys like Diaz.

He was a polarizing player on the Habs board. Canadiens fans are so obsessed with size and toughness that they couldn't see what Diaz brought to the game. Before Diaz had to carry Douglas Murray as his partner, he was on the ice for the least amount of Goals against per minutes played.

Sure he's on the smaller side and isn't the strongest on his feet, but his defensive game for a bottom pairing D is quite good and the fact that he can move the puck is a bonus. I was sad to see him go, especially to play Murray and Boullion over him.

Hope he gets an extended chance in New York. If you can overlook his "softness" Diaz is good 5-6 guy with excellent gap control, an active stick, good position, an above average first pass and untapped offensive in him (though I don't think he'll ever reach his offensive potential). Sometimes he lacks poise and gets pushed off the puck, but all bottom pairing guys have their deficiencies and I think Diaz's pros outweight his cons.
The reason why he's fit well so far is because he brings something from the defense that we didn't have much of before; pivotal skating speed. He's not a super fast straight line skater, but he can shift on a dime which is very important when trying to keep the puck in at the blue line.

Too many NYR defensemen are static, Stralman, Girardi, Klein, and Staal are not amazing at pivotal speed. Because Diaz is short, he's shifty, and brings a bit of a new element to our corps.

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John Moore. Can't lose your spot because of an injury.

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Klein has been the worst Dman on the team by a wide margin.

I know people here want to like him because they moved MDZ for him, but he's a massive disappointment.
I think Klein has played his role very well. He isn't flashy and you wont notice him a alot, but he gets his job done.

As for Moore/Diaz, its a great problem to have. Diaz has been impressive so far and I think you have to stick with him. His righty shot on the PP is something AV has been looking for all year. If he does struggle its nice to have Moore as plan B.

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Klein is a better defensemen than either J. Moore or Diaz. Moore was a train wreck before Klein got here.

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I think this may be the end of Stralman being here. Diaz has shown a lot to me. Will be cheaper than Stralman too. Right now, go with Diaz. Moore will get a shot again.

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John Moore. Can't lose your spot because of an injury.
Why can't you? Diaz has seized the opportunity.

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Klein is a better defensemen than either J. Moore or Diaz. Moore was a train wreck before Klein got here.
Yep. Klein has been very, very good for us. Surprisingly steady on the back-end. He's really replaced Sauer. Sauer used to be that steady, 3rd pairing rock. Funnily enough, Klein could have really steadied MDZ's game I'd bet. Just like Sauer.

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Because he is not any good
These guys are defensemen.

Klein is much better at playing defense than both Moore and Diaz.

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