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08-19-2005, 02:28 AM
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Re-read all the comments from Kings fans again...or even Boston fans. There were several in Pittsburgh glad he didn't sign there. Doesn't seem weird at all to you?
Fans speaking poorly of a player either not on their favorite team or having formerly played for their team: Unheard of!

Stumpel will impress Panthers fans. He has led two teams in scoring ('96-'97 Bruins/'97-'98 Kings>>>Jokinen's 1st NHL season) and has been better than a pt./gm player twice ('97-'98 and '99-'00 Kings squads). He will be Olli's personal rightside set up man, seeing as stumpel as a set up man compliments Jokinen the goalscorer, plus there is familiarity seeing as the same team Jokinen broke into the league with is the same team Josef led in scoring ('97-'98 kings).


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Fans speaking poorly of a player either not on their favorite team or having formerly played for their team: Unheard of!

Stumpel will impress Panthers fans. He has led two teams in scoring ('96-'97 Bruins/'97-'98 Kings>>>Jokinen's 1st NHL season) and has been better than a pt./gm player twice ('97-'98 and '99-'00 Kings squads). He will be Olli's personal rightside set up man, seeing as stumpel as a set up man compliments Jokinen the goalscorer, plus there is familiarity seeing as the same team Jokinen broke into the league with is the same team Josef led in scoring ('97-'98 kings).
Sorry, he'll put up decent points in Florida, but it's not an impressive signing if he's going to be a first line center. CBGB said it best in another thread when he said that Stumpel signing with the Panthers is like an ex-girlfriend moving out, you finally know she's gone.

Stumpel really clicked with Palffy, and that's who he was happiest playing with. When Palffy was injured last season, Stumpel played with little heart. His softness is excruciating for a guy his size; he really doesn't battle for the puck much, if at all. So, while he may be good at setting up a player, he needs to have someone else set him up with the puck first, because he will rarely do the work himself.

But, he is a very good playmaker. If he sees an open teammate, he'll get it to them.

Stumpel is a good contingency plan if you have an injured player... or if you want to break your kids in to the top 6 role slowly. Unfortunately for us Kings fans, Allison was injured all year, and so we were stuck with him.

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Sorry, he'll put up decent points in Florida, but it's not an impressive signing if he's going to be a first line center. CBGB said it best in another thread when he said that Stumpel signing with the Panthers is like an ex-girlfriend moving out, you finally know she's gone.

Stumpel really clicked with Palffy, and that's who he was happiest playing with. When Palffy was injured last season, Stumpel played with little heart. His softness is excruciating for a guy his size; he really doesn't battle for the puck much, if at all. So, while he may be good at setting up a player, he needs to have someone else set him up with the puck first, because he will rarely do the work himself.

But, he is a very good playmaker. If he sees an open teammate, he'll get it to them.

Stumpel is a good contingency plan if you have an injured player... or if you want to break your kids in to the top 6 role slowly. Unfortunately for us Kings fans, Allison was injured all year, and so we were stuck with him.
Thanks for the insightful post King'sPawn, and that avatar never gets old for me!

Just a thought. Assuming they had signing Olesz in mind all along and he does end up making the team out of camp, maybe the organization felt Stumpel would make a compatible linemate and roommate on the road for him? Olesz needed Krajicek's help to translate for him last rookie camp, wonder how much his english has progressed since then? Other than that, European players seem to respond to Martin really well, so I'm not too worried, he's here for depth and insurance (potential Jokinen holdout).

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Sorry, he'll put up decent points in Florida, but it's not an impressive signing if he's going to be a first line center. CBGB said it best in another thread when he said that Stumpel signing with the Panthers is like an ex-girlfriend moving out, you finally know she's gone.

Stumpel really clicked with Palffy, and that's who he was happiest playing with. When Palffy was injured last season, Stumpel played with little heart. His softness is excruciating for a guy his size; he really doesn't battle for the puck much, if at all. So, while he may be good at setting up a player, he needs to have someone else set him up with the puck first, because he will rarely do the work himself.

But, he is a very good playmaker. If he sees an open teammate, he'll get it to them.

Stumpel is a good contingency plan if you have an injured player... or if you want to break your kids in to the top 6 role slowly. Unfortunately for us Kings fans, Allison was injured all year, and so we were stuck with him.
who said he would be on the first line, much less, playing center? try 2nd line RW if you even follow FLA, and he'll do pretty well there alongside former teammates Jokinen.

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who said he would be on the first line, much less, playing center? try 2nd line RW if you even follow FLA, and he'll do pretty well there alongside former teammates Jokinen.
I don't follow Florida, but I did take the time to read through these posts. Some were pegging him as a winger, some as a 2nd liner, some as a 1st liner, some as a center.

In fact, the first two pages were basically saying "great, another center?"

And perhaps it's because the lack of center depth for the Kings, but Stumpel NEVER played RW with us. Don't think he did with Boston either, but I could be wrong.

As for being a roommate, Crossbar, it's certainly possible. Bear in mind that Stumpel is considered a Slovak, though. They could click, which is pretty much what Stumpel needs. Without Palffy, another countryman would certainly motivate him a little more.

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Without Palffy, another countryman would certainly motivate him a little more.
Yeah I was thinking Jurai Kolnik would be the other linemate Stumpel would be compatible to play with. Jurai can play both a skilled and fiesty game, but needs a playmaker to play with since he is mainly a shooter (or at least, thats the way it worked out with he and Weiss this year in the AHL ).

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who said he would be on the first line, much less, playing center? try 2nd line RW if you even follow FLA, and he'll do pretty well there alongside former teammates Jokinen.
Stumpel hasn't played RW since his second year in Boston. He's far too slow to make an impact on the wing, but his range is a plus at center. By the way, he's never been on the same squad as Jokinen.

The thing with Stumpel is that he just doesn't do enough. He has solid puck skills, but couldn't put up big numbers even though he played with top-notch wingers like Palffy, Deadmarsh and Samsonov.

The reason most Kings' fans call him soft is not because of his lack of physical play, but rather his lack of commitment - he just doesn't have a strong mental approach. His physical skills dictate a big role, but his work ethic leaves a whole lot to be desired. He'll have a multi-point game, you'll get your hopes up, and then he will disappear for two weeks at a time. There is absolutely no fire in his belly, but with your other pick-ups, he might gain some stones by osmosis.

He's below average in the circles, but he is very, very solid in the defensive zone. He'll play big minutes on the PK and won't let you down.

Be prepared for re-occuring groin and abdominal injuries.

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Stumpel hasn't played RW since his second year in Boston. He's far too slow to make an impact on the wing, but his range is a plus at center. By the way, he's never been on the same squad as Jokinen.

The thing with Stumpel is that he just doesn't do enough. He has solid puck skills, but couldn't put up big numbers even though he played with top-notch wingers like Palffy, Deadmarsh and Samsonov.

The reason most Kings' fans call him soft is not because of his lack of physical play, but rather his lack of commitment - he just doesn't have a strong mental approach. His physical skills dictate a big role, but his work ethic leaves a whole lot to be desired. He'll have a multi-point game, you'll get your hopes up, and then he will disappear for two weeks at a time. There is absolutely no fire in his belly, but with your other pick-ups, he might gain some stones by osmosis.

He's below average in the circles, but he is very, very solid in the defensive zone. He'll play big minutes on the PK and won't let you down.

Be prepared for re-occuring groin and abdominal injuries.
My god, its Viktor Kozlov incarnate.

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My god, its Viktor Kozlov incarnate.
Yup, minus the "upside" Kozlov has turned into millions of $. Neither guy is bad to have around, but you will be looking to better-deal them constantly.

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Stumpel ...By the way, he's never been on the same squad as Jokinen.
posting before researching is usually not a good idea:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...000401998.html

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...000401999.html

parts of TWO seasons olli and jozef spent together

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