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07-19-2014, 12:26 PM
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Death of TSN Habs and end of English TV regional rights to Habs games

I have been able to watch Habs 'regional English' games on TSN Habs channel 1402 on Bell Fibe TV the last couple of years.

However, since a couple of days ago (at least), the "info" details of the TSN Habs channel has been changed to saying
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As of Aug 11 TSN Canadians will no longer be available from the source
So I first thought that maybe those games are simply being moved to the new TSN 3, 4 and 5 channels. However, after carefully reading this May 2014 press release about those channels, the only mention of regional NHL games says:
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NHL hockey – including 26 Toronto Maple Leafs games, 52 Ottawa Senators games, as well as pre-season games (available on a regional basis), plus local hockey programming generated by production expansion at TSN Radio stations in Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Winnipeg and Edmonton
Absolutely nothing about TV coverage of Canadiens games.

TSN Habs has been mentionned, including by me, on a couple other related threads about TVA Sports and regional coverage outside of eastern Canada. One of those posts included a link to this news article from June in the Montreal Gazette, in which it ends by saying:
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But there will be no English regional package as there has been in recent years. TSN and Rogers both passed on the regional package because it didn’t make sense from a financial point of view.
The only thing that gives me hope is that the TSN web site currently says
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Check back soon for the 2014-15 Montreal Canadiens regional broadcast schedule.
However, if you view the web source of that page, you can see that they simply put comment tags around last years 2013-14 web page and stuck that line of text on it. So this is an old web page (with no visible modified date tag to indicate when that notice was put there).

So is this really it for English regional Habs games on TV, including in Montreal and the rest of the Habs regional market?

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This tv racket is absolutely retarded

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TSN needs to grow some balls. They're losing out on everything hockey related and I think they underestimate the number of viewers they'd get for English Habs games.

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Like we speculated TSN-Habs and TSN-Jets are getting rebranded into TSN 3 and 4.

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TSN needs to grow some balls. They're losing out on everything hockey related and I think they underestimate the number of viewers they'd get for English Habs games.
You sure about that? Pretty sure they know exactly how many viewers they get, which is why they're not renewing. They know how many people are watching at any time, when viewership peaks, declines, etc...They're a media company, that is their job

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they don't feel the need to continue their coverage. it's a business decision, pretty sure they explored every option

it's ok to accept their decision and move on

rip tsn-habs

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Habs actually still have 60 regular season games in English up for sell....

Rogers/TVA sport has 22 regular season games in both English and French.

RDS bought 60 regular season games.

But no word on what is going on with the the 60 English regular season games, gotta believe that Rogers and Tsn are still bidding for them.

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No one wins but the online streaming websites which I will be using and canceling my cable package at my girlfriends.

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This is ********! I'm very Pissed off, Guess Anglo Montreal is not aloud to have a choice! welcome to purgatory.

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what you can't speak french?? I thought everyone does.

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Habs actually still have 60 regular season games in English up for sell....

Rogers/TVA sport has 22 regular season games in both English and French.

RDS bought 60 regular season games.

But no word on what is going on with the the 60 English regular season games, gotta believe that Rogers and Tsn are still bidding for them.
wait so RDS isnt covering all 82 games?

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wait so RDS isnt covering all 82 games?
no, it's been announced for quite some time.

Changes are acoming, boys!

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Does anyone know if Kingston ont falls within the RDS coverage area? All I know is "parts of eastern ontario". I read somewhere Kingston is covered. I also read east to Pembroke but does it come down to Kingston?

I'm really concerned about this coming season. I would get centre ice, but some games might be blacked out.

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This is ********! I'm very Pissed off, Guess Anglo Montreal is not aloud to have a choice! welcome to purgatory.
*allowed*

I thought Sportsnet was suppose to be showing all the games ?

What package(s) do I need to see all the games ?

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Does anyone know if Kingston ont falls within the RDS coverage area? All I know is "parts of eastern ontario". I read somewhere Kingston is covered. I also read east to Pembroke but does it come down to Kingston?

I'm really concerned about this coming season. I would get centre ice, but some games might be blacked out.
I have it (RDS), but the Quebec border is really close.

Centre ice sucks. I have it on my playstation. The quality changes, it lags for no reason. If the game isn't blacked out and you miss you, you have to wait 48 hours before you can watch it. Once the playoffs are over, the playoff games are removed, or at least I can't find them...

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Looks like I'm gonna be watching streams for the next 12 or so years.

Although I guess that's a good thing because I can post and watch at the same time instead of just during stoppages and intermissions.

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Habs actually still have 60 regular season games in English up for sell....

Rogers/TVA sport has 22 regular season games in both English and French.

RDS bought 60 regular season games.

But no word on what is going on with the the 60 English regular season games, gotta believe that Rogers and Tsn are still bidding for them.
Rogers will carry 32 Habs games nationally and 22 will be on TVA sports.

More here: http://blog.fagstein.com/2014/06/22/...hedule-2014-15

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Rogers will carry 32 Habs games nationally and 22 will be on TVA sports.

More here: http://blog.fagstein.com/2014/06/22/...hedule-2014-15
So incredibly brutal.. I'll be watching on my laptop and hope their viewership is **** until they find a way to give us more access to the Canadiens.

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So incredibly brutal.. I'll be watching on my laptop and hope their viewership is **** until they find a way to give us more access to the Canadiens.
Yes, and as the article states, the NHL is to blame here, not TV networks.


Also: XBMC + Mash Up

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Yes, and as the article states, the NHL is to blame here, not TV networks.


Also: XBMC + Mash Up
I figured.. the NHL is going to use every opportunity for the new t.v. contract to try and shove american hockey teams down every ones throats. They want to grow the market in America at all costs and really don't care about spurning the viewers in Canada.

As long as I can find access to every single Habs game online, I'll be fine. Hopefully ATDHE doesn't get shut down again.

And I have no idea what XBMC + Mash Up means, elaborate?

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I figured.. the NHL is going to use every opportunity for the new t.v. contract to try and shove american hockey teams down every ones throats. They want to grow the market in America at all costs and really don't care about spurning the viewers in Canada.

As long as I can find access to every single Habs game online, I'll be fine. Hopefully ATDHE doesn't get shut down again.

And I have no idea what XBMC + Mash Up means, elaborate?
Sent you a PM on XBMC/MashUp.

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Sent you a PM on XBMC/MashUp.
Cheers!

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Rogers will carry 32 Habs games nationally and 22 will be on TVA sports.

More here: http://blog.fagstein.com/2014/06/22/...hedule-2014-15
Oh thanks, anyhow that means 50 regional English Habs game are up for graps.

But in terms of the deal, it sucks that we can't get the Habs in just 1 channel but Bell/tsn really dropped the ball on this one, and have themselves to blame.

With Rogers we'll get to watch many more games, they have like 5-6 channels they will be playing games, well be able to switch as we please no blackout on national games.

Tsn is only now moving towards what Rogers did years ago and have 4-5 channels, too bad it's to little to late.

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It is quite possible that it is the Canadiens that are most at fault for the lack of anybody buying the English regional rights yet. The Canadiens own those regional rights and can sell them to the highest bidder, and if there is only 1 interested buyer, then they can still set a desired price and negotiate from there.

Even though many anglophone fans would be bilingual enough to watch the games in French too, I can't imagine the audience on TSN Habs would have been so poor that TSN wouldn't love to continue to carry Habs regional games. And with the loss of their national coverage, one would think TSN would want to grab up as many regional rights as possible, especially since they are also launching 3 new channels. Look at how much Bell Media (which owns TSN) paid for the Senators regional rights (up to $400 million for English and French rights for 12 years).

So, I wonder if the Canadiens have simply set too high a price tag and/or wrongly assumed that TSN would be desperate to pay whatever they asked.

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It is quite possible that it is the Canadiens that are most at fault for the lack of anybody buying the English regional rights yet. The Canadiens own those regional rights and can sell them to the highest bidder, and if there is only 1 interested buyer, then they can still set a desired price and negotiate from there.

Even though many anglophone fans would be bilingual enough to watch the games in French too, I can't imagine the audience on TSN Habs would have been so poor that TSN wouldn't love to continue to carry Habs regional games. And with the loss of their national coverage, one would think TSN would want to grab up as many regional rights as possible, especially since they are also launching 3 new channels. Look at how much Bell Media (which owns TSN) paid for the Senators regional rights (up to $400 million for English and French rights for 12 years).

So, I wonder if the Canadiens have simply set too high a price tag and/or wrongly assumed that TSN would be desperate to pay whatever they asked.
It's too bad... I don't mind watching in French but I always preferred to watch in English... Oh well

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