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05-04-2014, 12:18 PM
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Alexander Steen

Blues need a 1C, and you have to give up something to get something. With Steen being the starting piece of a package, what can your team offer up?

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05-04-2014, 12:26 PM
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Moving Steen for a center won't improve us, it will just rearrange our forwards still leaving us with a hole.

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05-04-2014, 12:29 PM
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If you want to upgrade your 1 center move Backes+

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05-04-2014, 12:30 PM
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If you want to upgrade your 1 center move Backes+
And that would hurt us even more.

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Moving Steen for a center won't improve us, it will just rearrange our forwards still leaving us with a hole.
It would open up spots for Tarasenko and Swartz to get top minutes. Jaskin will probably make the team out of camp, and Rattie might have a shot as well. Still have Oshie, and Sobotka is versatile.

If Stastny resigns with the Avs, the only way we are going to get the 1C we need is via a trade, and we arent going to get it by packaging up spare parts.

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05-04-2014, 12:40 PM
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And that would hurt us even more.
That's the price your gonna have to pay to get a legit 1st line center.

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05-04-2014, 12:48 PM
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I love Backes, but in the right deal, I wouldnt be opposed...but it would have to be with the other team over paying a bit in return. 23 career playoff games, and he has 4 goals.

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That's the price your gonna have to pay to get a legit 1st line center.
No it's not. Berglund+Rattie/Jaskin+Edm 2nd gets us Spezza. Something around that, but a little more gets us Kesler, and something around Shattenkirk gets us Pavelski. All of those have been discussed on here and for the most part both sides have agreed.

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05-04-2014, 01:15 PM
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I love Backes, but in the right deal, I wouldnt be opposed...but it would have to be with the other team over paying a bit in return. 23 career playoff games, and he has 4 goals.
We'd be left without a shutdown center and with our lack of elite scoring forwards and current system and players, we would no longer be a contender without a high-end shutdown center.

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05-04-2014, 01:15 PM
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I would love to have Steen on the Canes.

E. Staal and Tlusty?

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05-04-2014, 01:21 PM
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We'd be left without a shutdown center and with our lack of elite scoring forwards and current system and players, we would no longer be a contender without a high-end shutdown center.
I agree with you. Thats why I said the other team would have to over pay in the deal. Only part I may disagree with you on, is thinking we are a contender. I think the last 2-3 years has proven we are still pretenders. Not contenders.

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Only part I may disagree with you on, is thinking we are a contender. I think the last 2-3 years has proven we are still pretenders. Not contenders.
And that's totally fair. Right now we are no better off than we were before the 04-05 lockout. We'd still be downgraded below pretender level then.

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05-04-2014, 01:39 PM
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I love Backes, but in the right deal, I wouldnt be opposed...but it would have to be with the other team over paying a bit in return. 23 career playoff games, and he has 4 goals.
Yeah because the rest of our centers ****ing suck. Backes has to handle the complete shut-down assignment of the other team's top line because Berglund and Sobotka sure as heck can't do it. We don't have a #2 center. The point in getting one is that it will help Backes and free up some of the load from his shoulders so he can probably produce more. Trading him is completely counterproductive and should never be considered.

Steen shouldn't be traded either. You don't fill a hole in our offense by creating another massive hole. That is why guys like Berglund, Shattenkirk, prospects, etc. are more likely to be moved in a deal for a center if we do go that route.

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I like Eric Staal coming to StL.

Honestly I've watched Steen for a while and this year he was vastly improved than any other time I've seen. He looked more composed and more fit.

Some players shine when put on the spotlight, they need to be first liners to produce. I think Steen is one of those guys. His value... if I'm another team I wouldn't pay much for him unless I saw a great fit for him on the #1 line. I think Steen would be great in Pitts.

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No it's not. Berglund+Rattie/Jaskin+Edm 2nd gets us Spezza. Something around that, but a little more gets us Kesler, and something around Shattenkirk gets us Pavelski. All of those have been discussed on here and for the most part both sides have agreed.
Neither are really go to number 1 centers. Two of them are injury prone, not sure why you would give up assets for them.

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Neither are really go to number 1 centers. Two of them are injury prone, not sure why you would give up assets for them.
We don't need an elite top 10 center. We just need our version of Krejci.

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Lee Stempniak

I'd say Stepan is an approximate equivalent center wise when it comes to value.

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I'd say Stepan is an approximate equivalent center wise when it comes to value.
To Steen? I don't think so.

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If you want to upgrade your 1 center move Backes+
This would do absolutely nothing.

The whole point of us getting a center is to be number 1 to Backes being number 2. We get rid of Backes and we pretty much just dug a ditch and filled it back up.

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If the Blues what a top of the line #1 center their best bet is trading Tarasenko or Schwartz

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If the Blues what a top of the line #1 center their best bet is trading Tarasenko or Schwartz
Too true

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But, actually not true.

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If the Blues what a top of the line #1 center their best bet is trading Tarasenko or Schwartz
Or you know, we could go after Stastny if he makes it to free agency. If that fails we could, you know, sign a solid second line center since we already have a first line center in David Backes.

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If you want to upgrade your 1 center move Backes+
That's not even close. We aren't looking to "upgrade" our number 1 center. We're looking to bring in another center to help take the load off of Backes.

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Or you know, we could go after Stastny if he makes it to free agency. If that fails we could, you know, sign a solid second line center since we already have a first line center in David Backes.
Or we could keep Sobotka in that second line position and redo the third line. I don't know what happened, but over the last year the third line has dramatically gotten worse.

Steen Backes Oshie
Schwartz Sobotka Tarasenko
3 new players, whether in trade or FA
Cracknell/Porter Lapierre Reaves/Porter

If Stastny is signed

Schwartz Stastny Tarasenko
Steen Backes Oshie
FA/trade Sobotka FA/trade
Cracknell/Porter Lapierre Reaves/Porter

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