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04-14-2014, 11:48 AM
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Technically, yeah, he's correct if he's talking strictly about financial leverage here. He's not explicitly stating that doesn't want to play for the Flyers. I'm hoping that it was just a response to the question, and it just wasn't all that thought out.

The first half of the article makes it sound like he was going to sign as soon as the clock hit zero. So I'm going to try to not read into this, too much.

Still though, if he ends up somewhere else I'm going to freak the **** out.

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The Flyers will never lose him for nothing. People are concerned we would just miss out on him by signing with another team and in the same article it mentions the Flyers are letting him do his thing and not pressuring him into anything right now. Holmgren will get down to it when he wants and if he sees that he doesn't want to sign they will probably find a partner in a trade or use him in a package for another defender. He is an asset right now, if he doesn't want to be here for who knows why, make a deal.

I try to be an optimistic person, and for some reason I am not worried about him signing. Let him enjoy the national championship and then weigh his options. Homer can have a meeting with him and his agent and I am sure he can help change his mind if he is thinking about going back for his senior year.

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04-14-2014, 11:52 AM
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The league really has to find a way to do away with this loophole. What's the point in the draft if these kids can just walk away?

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04-14-2014, 11:56 AM
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The league really has to find a way to do away with this loophole. What's the point in the draft if these kids can just walk away?
I couldn't disagree more.

The draft shouldn't mean a team owns a player's rights indefinitely.

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04-14-2014, 11:57 AM
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Yep.


I'll worry about it actually happening when it actually happens.
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It seems to me that the question introduced the options--and he simply gave a balanced, intelligent analysis of them.
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I mean, its a perfectly honest and accurate response to the question, isn't it? There's advantages and disadvantages to going pro now vs. waiting until next August. I get that we'd all love for him to declare that there was nowhere but Philly for him, but it would be a bit disingenuous, wouldn't it?
Read the whole article and i have to agree he hasnt decided what hes going to do so until he does im not worried..

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04-14-2014, 11:58 AM
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people really need to take a step back and relax.
I know some here wanted him to sign 5 seconds after the horn went off on Saturday but let the kid think things out on what he wants to do. I mean hey its only his future on the line. I know that doesn't mean much to some but come on. if he needs some time, give him some time. not even 48 hours removed from winning the biggest game of his life.

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04-14-2014, 12:00 PM
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Read the whole article and i have to agree he hasnt decided what hes going to do so until he does im not worried..
The article just leaves a sour taste after reading it. It ends with that quote.

Hopefully it works out.

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04-14-2014, 12:02 PM
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The league really has to find a way to do away with this loophole. What's the point in the draft if these kids can just walk away?
It's still a prettty uncommon occurrence despite the Schultz situation that happened a few years ago. Most prospects worth a damn really run the risk of stagnating & ruining their development by waiting the four years, so it's a lot easier said than done for them to do so.

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04-14-2014, 12:04 PM
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I couldn't disagree more.

The draft shouldn't mean a team owns a player's rights indefinitely.
Then you might as well do away with the draft and make every junior and collegiate player free agents.

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04-14-2014, 12:06 PM
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You have to think that dragging an NHL team for 4 years on and then just cutting bait to sign with whoever you want, would make for a terrible impression, and that would piss off the Flyers (not that they can do anything, except for sending goons out to run him. lol)

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04-14-2014, 12:09 PM
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Same thing happened with JVR when he was at New Hampshire. He didn't want to sign, went back and pissed the Flyers off. Then the following year Homer meet with him I am pretty sure and he was finally signed. I would say right now I am just about 10% worried about him not signing, if he doesn't by the summer time that number grow exponentially.

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Im hoping it was just his agents instruction to seem in the middle about it

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04-14-2014, 12:18 PM
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Im hoping it was just his agents instruction to seem in the middle about it
if he has an agent he is ineligible to go back to college.

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04-14-2014, 12:20 PM
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Then you might as well do away with the draft and make every junior and collegiate player free agents.


Why is that?

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04-14-2014, 12:24 PM
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Whether he signs this year or next, signing with the Flyers is in his financial interest as he can get to his 2nd contract faster with the flyers. The only way he doesn't sign here is if he really doesn't want to play for the organization. I find that hard to believe in the flyers case.

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04-14-2014, 12:26 PM
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Whether he signs this year or next, signing with the Flyers is in his financial interest as he can get to his 2nd contract faster with the flyers.
Can you elaborate on that?

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if he has an agent he is ineligible to go back to college.
Yup but he does have "Advisors".

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I thought he was drafted following his freshman years, thus the flyers would have his rights till July 2016

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04-14-2014, 12:27 PM
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I couldn't disagree more.

The draft shouldn't mean a team owns a player's rights indefinitely.
Agreed. Curt Flood took his case to the Supreme Court to make sure that kind of thing couldn't happen anymore. Professional athletes shouldn't be indentured servants.

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04-14-2014, 12:29 PM
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Yup but he does have "Advisors".
You can have agents. Just can't sign with them.

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Can you elaborate on that?
As soon as he signs a contract, the following year starts his rookie contract. If he signs this year and plays for the AHL/NHL, his contract starts earlier, ends earlier, gets the next one sooner.

If he wants till after year college eligibility, his first year will be 2015-2016, instead of 2014-2015

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04-14-2014, 12:31 PM
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Yup but he does have "Advisors".
as long as they are not paid "advisors" then its fine.
I still think people need to step back and relax. has the kid even had time to take a breath? I am sure he will think things out, talk it over with his family and make a decision. until then people should relax.

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04-14-2014, 12:33 PM
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I agree not to freak out quite yet, but I would be lying to say this situation didn't concern me a little bit.

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I would rather him sign in the summer anyway when the season is over. I don't want him to burn a year on his contract playing a game or 2 in the playoffs.

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Same thing happened with JVR when he was at New Hampshire. He didn't want to sign, went back and pissed the Flyers off. Then the following year Homer meet with him I am pretty sure and he was finally signed. I would say right now I am just about 10% worried about him not signing, if he doesn't by the summer time that number grow exponentially.
JVR was still two years away from free agency though wasn't he?

I'm worried.

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