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04-09-2014, 11:16 PM
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Will Ray Emery be here next season?

Or is there another goalie we have from Adirondack (or Lehigh Valley next season) waiting to be placed on the Flyers? He's been a great backup this season and the Flyers goalie duo this season has been the best I've seen since well I can't remember

I don't follow like the minor leagues so sorry if this is a dumb topic

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04-09-2014, 11:46 PM
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Cal Heeter would be the only callup (unless someone has any word on Kovar?). My guess is Stolarz is still a season or 2 away. I would suspect they look for a cheaper option at backup goalie. So unless Emery takes a paycut I would say he is gone.

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Hopefully not.

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Yeah I agree that Heeter will most likely be the backup... for two reasons: 1) To save Cap Space, and 2) I believe that Emery will test the waters to find a team here he has a chance to be the #1 Goalie, and one that will pay him more than the Flyers would... I believe he was willing to come here for that contract to earn a bigger one and the top spot -- that and I really believe he felt he owed the Flyers for not completing his last contract with him after they gave him a chance when many others wouldn't plus they stayed with him after his contract was done and supported his recuperation.

I'm thinking that Mase is the clear cut choice for the Flyers at least for the near future... and they will seek a serviceable backup on the cheap and if that can't be accomplished Heeter will get the spot... and Mase will get a heavy load of games next season with the backup spotted more than in any sort of rotation. JMO

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I believe that Emery will test the waters to find a team here he has a chance to be the #1 Goalie, and one that will pay him more than the Flyers would... I believe he was willing to come here for that contract to earn a bigger one and the top spot -- that and I really believe he felt he owed the Flyers for not completing his last contract with him after they gave him a chance when many others wouldn't plus they stayed with him after his contract was done and supported his recuperation.
Yeah you're probably right, and wow yeah I forgot that the Flyers not only gave him a chance back in 09 but also helped with his surgery and rehabilitation. Makes sense then that he came here at a decent price and I think he did state that as one of the reasons to come back to the Flyers last off-season when he signed the contract.

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Heeter has been solid and beat out Danis on the Phantoms but I'm not sold on him as a fulltime NHL backup.
Chubak has looked more impressive than Heeter recently and is a little younger but has almost no pro-experience and we know that this organization loves big goalies.

So Emery's chances are in fact better than most fans would like to admit!


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Emery should be gone. They can get a younger, more athletic backup for half his current cap hit.

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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back and I wouldn't be upset if he was gone. He's too pricey though for just a "meh" backup. If he was putting up the Chicago numbers, I'd be fine paying him this much, but he's not. So if he wants to take a pay cut (which I'm sure he doesn't), he can come back at $1 million. If he wants more, find someone else.

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Emery has been solid but I think the Flyers will go with Heeter as backup.
Is Stolarz going to the AHL next season? He will be the right age.

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Emery has been solid but I think the Flyers will go with Heeter as backup.
Is Stolarz going to the AHL next season? He will be the right age.
I'm not too up to date on OHL goalies. I know he's got good numbers, but how do they compare to other "top" goalies in the OHL? My feeling with moving guys up from juniors to AHL is when playing in the junior leagues is no longer going to challenge the guy. If he's just going to dominate at the OHL level, it isn't going to do him any good. If he's still going to be challenged and would overwhelmed in the AHL, let him stay.

He's not going to the NHL any time in the next 3-4 years, so it doesn't matter where he plays as long as it is a place where he can continue to improve. No point in putting him in the AHL to play 20 games and get smoked. But there's also no point in leaving him in the OHL to play 50-60 games and get complacent because he is that much better.

So in conclusion, I really don't know. Play him where he will still be challenged. No need to force anything. At best, he's going to replace Mason when is contract expires, so that puts his best case scenario ETA in 2016 as the backup before Mason is a UFA.

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Emery has been solid but I think the Flyers will go with Heeter as backup.
Is Stolarz going to the AHL next season? He will be the right age.
Stolarz will be AHL bound next season. He'll fit in very well there. I'm expecting that he and Chubak will be the goalies next year and there's no reason to believe that Stolarz doesn't see at least 30 to 35 games next year. He's pretty much done with the OHL and there's no benefit in sending him back to London next season. He's ready to move on.

As for Heeter as the back up, I'm not sold on it. I'd rather see them sign a guy like Carter Hutton, who has done a solid job in Nashville and will be a UFA at the end of the year. As well, it would make for a nice return for Carter because he initially broke into the pro's signing an PTO with the Phantoms a few years back.

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I don't think Emery will be back and I don't think Heeter is the answer as the backup. What if Mason gets hurt? You're going to trust Heeter to carry the load? I think they will pick up another backup goaltender for next year. Emery has been okay this year but not great.

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nope...


there are better options, so lets get one.

rather have someone with actual hips, plz.

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Nope he is gone. maybe we will make a package deal including a goalie coming back our way.


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His rights? He's a UFA.

I think he might go back to Chicago.

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I don't know if I am ready to anoint Heeter a NHL backup yet. they play a defensive system in ADK so that is likely helping his numbers.
Will Emery be back? I doubt it. I think they look elsewhere for a veteran backup. maybe someone like Montoya.

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I like Emery but I don't trust him. In the game against Boston, for instance, his movement was getting more and more labored as the game went on. He had a stretch in the middle of the season before the Olympics where he just looked gimpy. These aren't issues I foresee improving with time. He's a bit risky to keep around, but it's possible there's nobody else to roll with.

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UFA Goalies that will likely be backups:

Chad Johnson (27 YO, Boston)
Al Montoya (29 YO, Winnipeg)
Thomas Greiss (28 YO, Phoenix)
Justin Peters (27 YO, Carolina)
Carter Hutton (28 YO, Nashville)
JS Giguere (36 YO, Colorado)
Jonas Gustavsson (29 YO, Detroit)
Curtis McBackup (30 YO, Columbus)
Joey MacDonald (34 YO, Calgary)
Scott Clemmensen (36 YO, Florida)
Devan Dubnyk (27 YO, Montreal)
Nikolai Khabibulin (41 YO, Chicago)

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Griess is a possibility as well out of that list. Chad Johnson is a product of that strong defensive system in Boston. all the others for me are meh

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UFA Goalies that will likely be backups:

Chad Johnson (27 YO, Boston)
Al Montoya (29 YO, Winnipeg)
Thomas Greiss (28 YO, Phoenix)

Justin Peters (27 YO, Carolina)
Carter Hutton (28 YO, Nashville)
JS Giguere (36 YO, Colorado)
Jonas Gustavsson (29 YO, Detroit)
Curtis McBackup (30 YO, Columbus)
Joey MacDonald (34 YO, Calgary)
Scott Clemmensen (36 YO, Florida)
Devan Dubnyk (27 YO, Montreal)
Nikolai Khabibulin (41 YO, Chicago)
Those are the guys I'd want from that list. The Monster would be my top choice, but he's also the most expensive I would guess. Then I'd want Griess. Then Montoya. Followed by Dubnyk (I think in the right situation, he could be a solid backup, he put up a couple good seasons in Edmonton).

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I think I would stay away from Dubnyk. I think he is a bit messed up mentally with the season he had in Edmonton and now being relegated to the AHL.

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I think I would stay away from Dubnyk. I think he is a bit messed up mentally with the season he had in Edmonton and now being relegated to the AHL.
There isn't all that much else out there. If he's coming in to be a backup, I think he'd be fine. I can't imagine the price-tag would be too high either. There are guys I'd rather have over him, but I wouldn't be upset if they signed him to a sub $1 million contract on maybe two years. Enough time to have Stolie perhaps be ready to back up Mason when Doobie's contract is up.

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There isn't all that much else out there. If he's coming in to be a backup, I think he'd be fine. I can't imagine the price-tag would be too high either. There are guys I'd rather have over him, but I wouldn't be upset if they signed him to a sub $1 million contract on maybe two years. Enough time to have Stolie perhaps be ready to back up Mason when Doobie's contract is up.
I realize there isn't much out there in the free agent market for backup goalies. Just saying I don't like Dubnyk. IF they signed him I would give him a 1 year deal.(after kicking the tires elsewhere). Because even as a backup I don't trust him at all.

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I would also think someone in Minnesota may be on the way out, what with Backstrom, Bryzgalov, Kuemper. I suppose that is dependent on Josh Harding's health, as well.

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I would also think someone in Minnesota may be on the way out, what with Backstrom, Bryzgalov, Kuemper. I suppose that is dependent on Josh Harding's health, as well.
Imagine if they signed him. One year, $1.5 million. JUST IMAGINE.

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