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04-24-2014, 12:27 AM
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You're starting to sound like isles fans. Thanks for caring so much about us.
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04-24-2014, 01:57 AM
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How is Kesler not a need? Your center depth is horrible after Getzlaf you only have 3rd liners like Bonino and Perrault. We are happy to keep Kesler if we get low ball offers like these.
Would happily take Bonino as part of the trade that sends Kesler to the Ducks.

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how about we let Anaheim's and all these other contenders seasons play out. These conversations are going in circles. If the fans of these teams want Kesler, they can make the thread after their season is done.

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04-24-2014, 02:13 AM
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how about we let Anaheim's and all these other contenders seasons play out. These conversations are going in circles. If the fans of these teams want Kesler, they can make the thread after their season is done.
I've tried using that logic before. It doesn't fly on HF.

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04-24-2014, 02:30 AM
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the Ducks could sure use Kesler right now
Can he play as our #4 defenceman?

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How is Kesler not a need? Your center depth is horrible after Getzlaf you only have 3rd liners like Bonino and Perrault. We are happy to keep Kesler if we get low ball offers like these.
If you think these are low balls, you're going to be disappointed with what Kesler actually returns.

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Would happily take Bonino as part of the trade that sends Kesler to the Ducks.
Yes, I'm sure you would. No chance it would happen, however.

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04-24-2014, 02:35 AM
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Can he play as our #4 defenceman?
probably but he's more effective at center or wing.

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04-24-2014, 04:00 AM
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To ANH:
Kesler
36th overall pick

To VAN:
1st Round 2015
10th overall
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To ANH:
Kesler
36th overall pick

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1st Round 2015
10th overall
Etem
Go through one of the gazillion Kesler-to-Anaheim threads on this board and I'm sure this one has been addressed before by now.

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Can he play as our #4 defenceman?
What do you guys need? RHS?

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04-24-2014, 06:41 AM
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What do you guys need? RHS?
That would be preferable.

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Go through one of the gazillion Kesler-to-Anaheim threads on this board and I'm sure this one has been addressed before by now.
Anything less would be a no go from Canucks. Really depends on how far Anaheim goes, if they get knocked off by the Stars, you have to expect some huge changes.

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Anything less would be a no go from Canucks. Really depends on how far Anaheim goes, if they get knocked off by the Stars, you have to expect some huge changes.
I hate to disappoint you, but an early exit by ANA will not cause them to over pay for Kesler or anybody.

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I hate to disappoint you, but an early exit by ANA will not cause them to over pay for Kesler or anybody.
that's what you hope but your GM might see it differently.

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04-24-2014, 02:42 PM
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that's what you hope but your GM might see it differently.
I think I know our GM better than you do. But you might want to go have that conversation with some Isles fans.

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Kelser
36th overall

For

OTT 1st
Etem
Sorenson/Kerdiles

Basically trading our 2nd for a more developed 2nd round draft pick.

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04-24-2014, 05:11 PM
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I hate to disappoint you, but an early exit by ANA will not cause them to over pay for Kesler or anybody.
You're telling me if the number one seed gets knocked out by the last ranked team in all of playoffs, there won't be any significant changes?

Did I say ANA will overpay for Kesler? Please read before making hideous comments.

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04-24-2014, 05:44 PM
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You're telling me if the number one seed gets knocked out by the last ranked team in all of playoffs, there won't be any significant changes?

Did I say ANA will overpay for Kesler? Please read before making hideous comments.
This thread is about a proposed Kesler trade to ANA. If you want to talk about significant changes to the Ducks in the off season start a new thread. Yes, you absolutely do think if the Ducks lose in the first round they will be so desperate they will give in to any price you name for Kesler. That's your response to me telling you that you want too much.

BTW, you might want to double check the definition of hideous. I assure you there was nothing hideous about my comment.

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That would be preferable.
Kesler
Tanev

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Silfverberg
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Ana 1st 2014
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This thread is about a proposed Kesler trade to ANA. If you want to talk about significant changes to the Ducks in the off season start a new thread. Yes, you absolutely do think if the Ducks lose in the first round they will be so desperate they will give in to any price you name for Kesler. That's your response to me telling you that you want too much.

BTW, you might want to double check the definition of hideous. I assure you there was nothing hideous about my comment.
Obviously Anahiem wouldn't pay any price for Kesler. However if they lost in the first round due to missing Getzlaf they would want to address their Centre depth, no? As NoShowWilly has said I would prefer to discuss Kesler to Anahiem after the playoffs.

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This thread is about a proposed Kesler trade to ANA. If you want to talk about significant changes to the Ducks in the off season start a new thread. Yes, you absolutely do think if the Ducks lose in the first round they will be so desperate they will give in to any price you name for Kesler. That's your response to me telling you that you want too much.

BTW, you might want to double check the definition of hideous. I assure you there was nothing hideous about my comment.
Once again I never said, or even implied that. I do not think Anaheim will overpay for Kesler period, but they will be more inclined to get a deal done if they get knocked out in the first round, for anyone, not just Kesler. It was a general comment that is related to Kesler but not exclusively to Kesler.

Being more inclined to make a deal may mean upping the deal by a slight margin, enough for the Canucks to accept and move on, it however does not mean "they will be so desperate they will give in to any price you name for Kesler". It simply means the demand will be slightly higher, which means the price will be slightly higher. Simple economics.

Please stop stuffing words in my mouth, it just looks hideous.

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04-24-2014, 09:21 PM
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Obviously Anahiem wouldn't pay any price for Kesler. However if they lost in the first round due to missing Getzlaf they would want to address their Centre depth, no? As NoShowWilly has said I would prefer to discuss Kesler to Anahiem after the playoffs.
Anaheim's problem isn't goalscoring.

Getzlaf-Perreault-Bonino-Koivu/Rakell is fine for center depth. I guess people think the center depth sucks because Perreault isn't a sexy name.

A center is a luxury, not a necessity.

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Obviously Anahiem wouldn't pay any price for Kesler. However if they lost in the first round due to missing Getzlaf they would want to address their Centre depth, no? As NoShowWilly has said I would prefer to discuss Kesler to Anahiem after the playoffs.
With or without Getzlaf, and whether they win the cup or go out in the first round, the Ducks would have an interest in Kesler.

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Once again I never said, or even implied that. I do not think Anaheim will overpay for Kesler period, but they will be more inclined to get a deal done if they get knocked out in the first round, for anyone, not just Kesler. It was a general comment that is related to Kesler but not exclusively to Kesler.

Being more inclined to make a deal may mean upping the deal by a slight margin, enough for the Canucks to accept and move on, it however does not mean "they will be so desperate they will give in to any price you name for Kesler". It simply means the demand will be slightly higher, which means the price will be slightly higher. Simple economics.

Please stop stuffing words in my mouth, it just looks hideous.
This is hilarious (as opposed to hideous ). You just said it more clearly this time. You think the Ducks will pay more for Kelser if they go out in the first round. I told you they won't, that's over payment. Your playing semantics. It's not a game your good at. You should stop while your behind.

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04-25-2014, 02:15 AM
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With or without Getzlaf, and whether they win the cup or go out in the first round, the Ducks would have an interest in Kesler.



This is hilarious (as opposed to hideous ). You just said it more clearly this time. You think the Ducks will pay more for Kelser if they go out in the first round. I told you they won't, that's over payment. Your playing semantics. It's not a game your good at. You should stop while your behind.
I think the Ducks will pay more for Kesler, but not the aforementioned " Yes, you absolutely do think if the Ducks lose in the first round they will be so desperate they will give in to any price you name for Kesler. "

I'm not playing anything. Again, like I've repeated myself several times already, if by the slim chance the Ducks get knocked off in the first round, you have to expect significant changes to come. This may mean they will pay slightly more, just enough for Canucks to be able to send him off to Anaheim.

Paying slightly more and being so desperate that they will succumb to any price for Kesler is two very, very different things. You stuffed words in my mouth, and I called your ignorant self out. I believe I used hideous correctly as your comments were indeed horrific and terrifying. Implying significant changes = overpaying for Ryan Kesler makes you look very, very ignorant. Significant changes could be anything from coaching staff to management positions to trades or signings. You can go back to bed now.


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04-25-2014, 02:40 AM
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If Anaheim were to overpay for any position based on a playoff knock out, it should/would be a youngish top 4 defenceman to be part of the core with Fowler and Lindholm.

If Vancouver turn round and want more from Anaheim, I hope Anaheim tells Vancouver to bugger off to be honest.

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Some of the guys rumored to be looking for a move include E.Kane, Tavares and PK Subban. If the Canucks accept picks for Kesler they are out of the running for possible upgrades. They may prefer to move up in the draft, again much less possible without Kesler.

The offer from Anahiem predates the management team that will make the decisions now. Revisiting old offers is not useful and will not be viable after the season is over. New boss Popular Trev will not bask in the reflected glory of a stale offer made to his predecessor. He needs something flashy and new to wow the embittered in Vancouver.

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