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08-23-2005, 10:33 AM
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If they trade Havlat because of this, I am going to be mighty pissed. Like, I will drive up to Muckler's house and teach that old man a lesson.

My prediction is though..that they'll deal DeVries for sure next season. I know they will try to get Chara locked up...so I am going to guess that he will not get a big raise in order to keep the team together. Redden might do the same. It's all dependent on whether or not they want an extra mill or two to play in a ****** city that won't compete for the Cup

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It depends on what happens to the cap. If it goes up to say $43 mil, we have some room to work with. DeVries and Smoke will be the first guys to go, Smoke's low contract amount next season will make him very attractive to some teams (Buffalo, Washington).

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It depends on what happens to the cap. If it goes up to say $43 mil, we have some room to work with. DeVries and Smoke will be the first guys to go, Smoke's low contract amount next season will make him very attractive to some teams (Buffalo, Washington).
What happens if the cap goes down?

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What happens if the cap goes down?
Then every team (including us) is in a lot of trouble.

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Then every team (including us) is in a lot of trouble.
Perhaps, some more than others.

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08-23-2005, 10:56 AM
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I think this means deVries will be out of town. The Sens might think Meszaros can step into the NHL and contribute.

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08-23-2005, 11:01 AM
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Perhaps, some more than others.
Yes, competitive teams like us will be in trouble.

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Perhaps, some more than others.
You better hope the cap goes up. Your GM is banking on that occuring, BIG TIME.

As for us, it is tough to say what would happen. It would give us less money to work with, but it would also cause players to sign for less money next offseason. Really difficult to tell what would happen.

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If they trade Havlat because of this, I am going to be mighty pissed. Like, I will drive up to Muckler's house and teach that old man a lesson.
Hossa has shown himself to be the better player so far, in that he's a much stronger two-way player.

If it's between Redden and Havlat, I'd keep Redden.

I'm interested in seeing how Havlat does this year. A lot of people have a lot of expectations. He's quite the offensive force, but his suspension shenanigans should end and he should play more responsibly defensively. I also wonder whether he'll end up playing LW. Murray seems to think so.

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Hossa has shown himself to be the better player so far, in that he's a much stronger two-way player.

If it's between Redden and Havlat, I'd keep Redden.

I'm interested in seeing how Havlat does this year. A lot of people have a lot of expectations. He's quite the offensive force, but his suspension shenanigans should end and he should play more responsibly defensively. I also wonder whether he'll end up playing LW. Murray seems to think so.
I think we're going to see some phenomenal hockey coming out of Havlat, Hossa and Spezza. Breakout year for Havlat and the first of many good years from Spezza. And don't forget, both Havlat and Spezza are on 1 year contracts so they have a lot to prove for next years stressful bargaining period.

Who knows, maybe Havlat will be so good we'll have to get rid of him because he wants Lecavalier money?

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How come the salary against cap space listed for this year for de Vries is 2,280,000 and for Smolinsky at 2,242,000 when we have been assured that after averaging out ,the amounts against this years cap would be much lower, only around 1,700,000 for Smolinski. I believe.

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08-23-2005, 11:59 AM
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Does anybody think this might be a sign-and-trade? I can't believe the sens went from offering $4 mil per year to $6 mil per year in a day, but who knows, stranger things have happened.

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08-23-2005, 12:11 PM
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My interest in Havlat as an Oilers fan goes up with this signing. What would Sens fans be willing to trade him for?

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08-23-2005, 12:14 PM
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Does anybody think this might be a sign-and-trade? I can't believe the sens went from offering $4 mil per year to $6 mil per year in a day, but who knows, stranger things have happened.

I dont think so, they were low-balling him, but when D-day came, they knew they had to lock him up, or face the fact they would lose him next year as a UFA.

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08-23-2005, 12:14 PM
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My interest in Havlat as an Oilers fan goes up with this signing. What would Sens fans be willing to trade him for?
Ryan Smyth + Schremp?

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08-23-2005, 12:16 PM
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Forgive me for being slow on the uptake on this one, but I just want to make sure I understand this clearly... so salaries are actually averaged out over the number of years of their duration in terms of the relevance to the cap, but the players will actually be paid as per the specifics of the contract? For example, Hossa would be actually paid $5M this year, $6M the next, and $7M the next, but all 3 years would count as $6M against the cap? I take it this is done to prevent teams from backloading contracts like crazy and getting stuck in salary cap pinches, but it would seem to offer some potential loopholes to those teams who would be willing to spend considerably more in actual paid dollars that just the $39M cap.

At the end of the day, I guess it really does create a bit more general accountability among GM's for their signings... you offer up big bucks (especially to young players who can - rationally - be paid less, at least earlier in their RFA days), you're going to get a proportional cap hit right off the bat. It's interesting, though, that the actual contract specifics have become indicative of little more than a payment plan, as opposed to being an exceedingly relevant statistic in terms of the cap economics.

Ah, capology... someone should set up an e-learning module.

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08-23-2005, 12:47 PM
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Time to trade Smolinski and DeVries!

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Time to trade Smolinski and DeVries!
I agree the Sens should trade Smolinski and DeVries. But I don't know what the Sens could expect in return????

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Time to trade Smolinski and DeVries!
Straight up for Lecavalier

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Time to trade Smolinski and DeVries!
Straight up for Lecavalier...

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***?

Why does everybody think we have to trade players?

The sens currently fit under the cap. There is no reason whatsoever to trade anybody this season.

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