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05-06-2014, 10:42 AM
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Well the Chill have ceased operations as of Friday: http://www.stcharleschill.com/news/

If they had been able to capture a fraction of the support the former Otters had they'd probably make a go of it next year. But they couldn't even match the Otter's last couple seasons. So while I'm disappointed as the Family Arena is a beautiful venue for watching hockey (still hoping Lindenwood starts using it for their program) this was inevitable.

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05-06-2014, 06:38 PM
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Would Rapid city ever make a move to the E
Rapid and Allen both tried to join the ECHL last offseason.

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Ok so Bakersfield was just bought by Edmonton and will be in the AHL within two years. So if the ECHL West goes away, who will Alaska have to play?
Bakersfield will not be in the AHL in 2 years.

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Bakersfield will not be in the AHL in 2 years.
No they will be in the NHL and Edmonton will be their AHL farm team Mr. Sunshine.

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No they will be in the NHL and Edmonton will be their AHL farm team Mr. Sunshine.
false, SC, what happens if the Oilers sell the Condors, the only reason it was bought is to provide opportunity to provide continuity in player development.

Western expansion won't be happening by 2016, 2019 or later, is still under debate.

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false, SC, what happens if the Oilers sell the Condors, the only reason it was bought is to provide opportunity to provide continuity in player development.

Western expansion won't be happening by 2016, 2019 or later, is still under debate.
Don't get the joke?

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05-07-2014, 06:16 PM
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Don't get the joke?
Glad to see someone understood it.

Look at this article... http://mainehockeyjournal.com/?p=20837

“It’s a one-year agreement for next season,” said Pirates’ COO Brad Church. “Both parties agreed that in best interest with a potential west coast option that it gives both sides some freedom to explore all options available to them.”

Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose and Phoenix are all said to be lobbying the AHL in creating such a division. According to published reports, the AHL is finalizing a plan to implement a Pacific Division as early as the 2015-’16 season.

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http://www.jacketscannon.com/2014/5/...ation-in-limbo

A look at the ECHL Icemen with affiliation in limbo, and without a coach.

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Don't get the joke?
NEVER JOKE about futures of any franchise, regardless of league, JB, out of deference for that particular market or fanbase, thx.

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No they will be in the NHL and Edmonton will be their AHL farm team Mr. Sunshine.
Nobody will miss Edmonton anyway. 😅😅

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The Indy Fuel will have at least a year as the only hockey team in Indianapolis.



http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...riday/8709823/

Hard to imagine a team moving back in after closing shop. More likely than not, will relocate in a year or so, imho.
While it's never nice to see a team fold (well, suspend operations technically), the concept of a two team market in Indy didn't bode well for either organization nor hockey in general.

The Cincinnati Cyclones (IHL) and The Cincinnati Mighty Ducks (AHL) attempted to coexist starting in 1997-98. By the end of the 200-01 season, the Cyclones expired-along with the IHL. They were replaced by the ECHL Cyclones who ended up suspending operations for 2 years after the 2003-04 season. The Mighty Ducks folded operations at the conclusion of the 2004-05 season.


Relatively small markets have enough trouble supporting one team let alone two.

The ECHL Cyclones returned after a two year hiatus and have had the market to themselves for the past 8 years. The team averaged an actual 4200+ per game this season and appear to be heading toward a long term run in Cincinnati.


My sympathies to the fans of the USHL Ice. Hopefully most of them will support the ECHL Fuel and that team can thrive in what appears to be a beautifully redone Fairgrounds Coliseum. I'm looking forward to watching the Fuel get mercilessly pounded into submission by my Cyclones next season

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NEVER JOKE about futures of any franchise, regardless of league, JB, out of deference for that particular market or fanbase, thx.
When you've been around a while, and come to grips with the life cycle of minor pro hockey teams (not to mention other levels, like my buddy's 5-digit investment in a junior team that ended ignominously), sometimes humor is all you got left.

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When you've been around a while, and come to grips with the life cycle of minor pro hockey teams (not to mention other levels, like my buddy's 5-digit investment in a junior team that ended ignominously), sometimes humor is all you got left.
I don't joke about other fanbases status, PCS, BECAUSE AS THE ADAGE GOES, what comes around likely will be your fanbase in that mode, and that's a slippery slope, based on past experiences and other fanbases.

you hope your franchises is insulated from the speculation, which is why I also try not to do that unless it's got a fact behind it.

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05-09-2014, 05:34 PM
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Will Indy be in the North division with Evansville and Fort Wayne and one of Cincinnati/Toledo move to the Atlantic division?

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Will Indy be in the North division with Evansville and Fort Wayne and one of Cincinnati/Toledo move to the Atlantic division?
It should be Cincy IMO, we will see how it shakes out. I've had no word from sources yet.

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Will Indy be in the North division with Evansville and Fort Wayne and one of Cincinnati/Toledo move to the Atlantic division?
You would think so, though I wouldn't be at all surprised if they decided to split up the North into two more divisions of three each.

North
Fort Wayne
Kalamazoo
Toledo

Central (or something)

Cincinnati
Evansville
Indianapolis

Just spit-balling here, though. Cincinnati to the Atlantic would make more sense.

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I like Toledo to move geographically but they have seniority over Cincy.

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Just to make some thing clear in reference to Bako and Edmonton. If you actually understood WHY Edmonton bought us then you would understand theat they have ZERO intentions of EVER selling us. Itis no secret that the LA winning hte cup several years ago and the success of the Ducks has sparked a great interest in hockey in So-Cal. So much so that it is veleived that the future NHl prospects will be coming out of So-Cal. Bako's purpose is to attract non-contracted players in Co-Cal or elsewhere. They play here and if they are good enough then they will be signed to an NHL or AHL contract. It is far cheaper to sing uns igned players then to sign them only to have them fizzle out. Edmonton owns EVERY part of a hockey developmental program form juniors to the NHL. Bako was the missing link which has not been resolved. As to the Western AHL thing who knows. OKC is one of the worst inattendance and Edmontonhas sent as much as $750,000 with of cars given away and yet the attendance is essentially unchanged. Bako does a much better job in terms of attendance.

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I like Toledo to move geographically but they have seniority over Cincy.
Hold out your empty hand and I'll show you what the "seniority" you speak of is worth.

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Hold out your empty hand and I'll show you what the "seniority" you speak of is worth.
I thought it might be nothing more than first option to decline moving to another division.

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I thought it might be nothing more than first option to decline moving to another division.
The league board of governors determines that by a vote - teams don't have the option to decline. Seniority has all the value of a contract to play for the Tucson Gila Monsters.

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