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04-26-2014, 12:11 PM
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2014 NFL/NCAA Discussion Thread I: Crappy Stephen Hill released

With the draft coming, I figure we need a new thread. The first for the 2014 NFL season.

Is anyone else as frustrated as I am with moving the draft back? It seems like a horrible idea and has made for some ridiculous overanalysis of players.

I think that that the draft guys must be going a bit nuts as well.

Usually more time for analysis is a good thing. I don't think that's the case here, though.

So, what are your mocks looking like? Who do you think the Giants and the Jets should draft?

Current Giants mock:

1) Taylor Lewan, OT
2) Troy Niklas, TE
3) Dominique Easley, DE/DT
4) Lache Seastrunk/Charles Sims, RB
5) Will Clarke, DE/DT
5) Gabe Ikard, C
6) Khairi Fortt, LB

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Interesting story on Taylor Lewan, too. His character concerns are apparently no big deal and no team has taken him off their draft board. Lewan just visited with the Giants the other day.

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I am 100% on board with Lewan to the Gmen.

Assuming Evans & Jake Matthews don't miraculously fall:

1. Lewan
2. Donald
3. Ebron
4. Barr
5. Clinton-Dix

Other players I like, but not at 12: Kelvin Benjamin, RaShede Hageman, Calvin Pryor

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I am 100% on board with Lewan to the Gmen.

Assuming Evans & Jake Matthews don't miraculously fall:

1. Lewan
2. Donald
3. Ebron
4. Barr
5. Clinton-Dix

Other players I like, but not at 12: Kelvin Benjamin, RaShede Hageman, Calvin Pryor
I think Benjamin is going to be bust city.

Big fan of Pryor, though.

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I do not want a TE in the first round. Re: Ebron If he was an all around one, okay, but he's not. Kid sounds like Jeremy Shockey. Pass..

If I'm the Giants, I'm taking Donald, a WR or OT.

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I do not want a TE in the first round. Re: Ebron If he was an all around one, okay, but he's not. Kid sounds like Jeremy Shockey. Pass..

If I'm the Giants, I'm taking Donald, a WR or OT.
Speaking bout the Jets, concur, pretty much in any round no big TE investment this yr.
Kellen Winslow 2.0 + scrub/project is ok.

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2 improving DBs, pref w/ taller CBs who have enuf speed for coverage
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Speaking bout the Jets, concur, pretty much in any round no big TE investment this yr.
Kellen Winslow 2.0 + scrub/project is ok.

IMO,
Need our pix for
1 improving the OL/pass protection
2 improving DBs, pref w/ taller CBs who have enuf speed for coverage
3 other D needs esp. at LB
We have no need for DBs unless it's a safety.

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One of the 3 OTs, Donald, Evans, or Ebron. I heard rumors that they might take Martin from ND. Kiper has the Giants taking Donald, while McShay has them taking Odell Beckham, pretty off the wall. They both have the Jets taking Cooks.


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For some reason, a lot of analysts are starting to predict that the Jets select Dennard or Roby.

Smokescreens? Actual interest? Wonder what they do in 1 week.
Roby would be a pretty horrendous pick at your spot. Dennard would be solid.

I assume it's just more over-analysis of the draft, though.

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Reese talking about character issues in the early rounds.

http://t.co/dhNYxrgMVg

Pretty interesting. They have recently changed their philosophy of completely removing guys from their board, but he is still saying they want as clean a prospect as possible.

Im still of the opinion they need a center more than any other OL position.

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And to be honest, I think he could project to be a great NFL WR. Great hands, speed, and route running.
Lee? Great hands?

His hands are inconsistent at best.

Hes better than Hill for sure, but I certainly wouldnt name his hands as a strong suit.

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Jets fan here.

If we're taking a WR in the 1st round, I want Brandin Cooks. I think he's just as good as Lee, but without all the question marks surrounding him.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...23/marqise-lee

"Picks ball out of the air". No mention of that being a weakness. Injury concerns (same type of concerns for Milliner last year) and explosiveness off the line (can be taught).

His draft stock fell this year due to injuries.
Oy at forming opinions of players only going by what someone says when there are thousands of hours of youtube videos for almost every player.

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Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn (A)
Round 2 Pick 11: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (A)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Devon Kennard, OLB, Southern California (B)

I did this with the Giants, don't think it was very realistic as all three of the OTs were available along with Evans and Donald.

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Not sure I'd say Lee has great hands, but they are certainly above average.

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Hoping the Jets get one of Beckham or Dennard in the first round. Bucannon and Robinson could be two potential 2nd rounders they might be looking at as well.
I feel what the Rams,Jaguars, and Browns do dictates the rest of the draft.

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At least the draft's tomorrow right guys?

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I really wish it was tonight so I could have avoided watching this game.

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Might be watching the 2nd and 3rd rounds Friday instead of game 5. I know that's a lie, but just so disgusted.

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That is exactly what I'll be doing.

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