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04-28-2014, 12:30 AM
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It might i ll be honest i would look for more scoring as well but we won't have to id be shocked if Gaborik goes anywhere. I wonder why you don't think he signs?
I give it a 95% chance he will be back. That's why I keep putting him in my lineup for next year. But I like to see what people would do if he didn't come back.

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04-28-2014, 12:36 AM
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I give it a 95% chance he will be back. That's why I keep putting him in my lineup for next year. But I like to see what people would do if he didn't come back.
that fair enough I do however think that if we get a upgrade on our defense it would improve our scoring especially if we get someone like markov. We need to do something to get our defense more mobile and make better passes out of own zone. He would also help our pityful pp. Now with Gaborik our pp will be better full time but not as much as a true pp specialist like markov.

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04-28-2014, 12:41 AM
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Kings won't deal Carter, he has been arguably the best player besides Quick since the Cup run year.

Brown has struggled but he is the captain.

Richards, on the other hand is a shell of his former self and carries a high cap hit. Plus he plays Center and the Kings are deep at Center IF they keep Carter at center.

That would give them Kopitar, Carter, Stoll (1 year left on his deal), Lewis (can play all forward positions) and prospects Vey and Andreoff.

I didn't like the Richards deal from day one and ever though we won the Cup I knew this deal would eventually tip in the Flyers favor. No one realized it would be this soon.
ok the real question utah is would you make the richards trade again knowing what you know now. I would 100 /100

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04-28-2014, 12:50 AM
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Kings also have Weal and Shore at center.

Of course we would all make the Richards deal because it helped us win the Cup but he has been on a downward spiral for years now. The physical Richards' is dead. The deadly penalty killer is dead. He is a 4th line center at the moment.

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04-28-2014, 12:55 AM
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Kings also have Weal and Shore at center.

Of course we would all make the Richards deal because it helped us win the Cup but he has been on a downward spiral for years now. The physical Richards' is dead. The deadly penalty killer is dead. He is a 4th line center at the moment.
I have to disagree. I think he'll make it back to somewhat of his normal form. Not the philly version but the early king version. He will be a 2nd/3rd line center and not a 4th.

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04-28-2014, 01:06 AM
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Kings also have Weal and Shore at center.

Of course we would all make the Richards deal because it helped us win the Cup but he has been on a downward spiral for years now. The physical Richards' is dead. The deadly penalty killer is dead. He is a 4th line center at the moment.
i just wanted to be sure you weren't trying to say other wise. I also will have to agree to disagree with you on richard Hes still playing good solid pk and not just a 4th line center.

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04-28-2014, 10:24 AM
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I imagine that LA doesn't want to give up too much toughness and experience, but they really need to add a bit of skill to their forwards crew. The game is speeding up, and they tend to get caught up playing a pretty non-dynamic game. Gabby was definitely not what they really needed. I am not sure Toffoli is the answer either.

Preferbly they could add 2-3 guys in more of the Nick Bonino mode. I would maybe also look to "dump" one of Regher or Mitchell and try to add a little more speed to their blueline too....

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I think the scoring problem LA's forwards has also to a pretty big extent can be attributed to the fact that they aren't really able to challenge a defense with speed / a dynamic attack (ie not (only) Gabby type of N-S speed). I think both Brown and Richards would score more if LA as a whole was able to create a bit more havoc and push back the teams they play against.

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04-28-2014, 11:04 AM
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Richards and Toffoli to Philly for Simmonds.

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Red Wings could use someone to play 60+ games a season, i think Richards would be a good fit there. Shame on the Weiss contract tho.

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I meant the other way around

LA would have to add imo for Kadri.

Holland + 1st 2016?

Lupul +?
Yup...MR is a depreciating asset. Injuries have taken a toll I'm sure, but he just doesn't play with any sort of purpose anymore. Plus, he's thoroughly out of shape. He's completely gassed after one trek up the ice

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04-28-2014, 12:38 PM
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I imagine that LA doesn't want to give up too much toughness and experience, but they really need to add a bit of skill to their forwards crew. The game is speeding up, and they tend to get caught up playing a pretty non-dynamic game. Gabby was definitely not what they really needed. I am not sure Toffoli is the answer either.

Preferbly they could add 2-3 guys in more of the Nick Bonino mode. I would maybe also look to "dump" one of Regher or Mitchell and try to add a little more speed to their blueline too....
Your right la wouldn't want to give up any toughness and experience. However i also don't see any need to add "skill to the forwards" we have it all ready Carter Kopitar Gaborik Toffolli Williams Pearson Richards Brown Stoll thats 9 forward with skill more then enough. Gaborik had 16 points in 19 games and hes getting better the more he plays. Gaborik was what la needed in the forward ranks. I love how you think there is some sorta problem with la The kings had one of the most successful season in a long time. The team finish with 100 points tied for 9th over all They also finished first in goals against Does that sound like a team needing a major shake up? The kings have 2 ufa defense man one of which may need replacing as McNabb has to be on the main roster as he would have to pass thru waivers to go back to the ahl.

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04-28-2014, 12:43 PM
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I think the scoring problem LA's forwards has also to a pretty big extent can be attributed to the fact that they aren't really able to challenge a defense with speed / a dynamic attack (ie not (only) Gabby type of N-S speed). I think both Brown and Richards would score more if LA as a whole was able to create a bit more havoc and push back the teams they play against.
The kings are built to win 1 -0 2-1 with a couple of 3 -2 once or twice a month. Weather you like it or not there not a team that scores a lot of goals. There only interested in one stat and that is wins. Gaborik has brought the one missing element a
winger that can score. This team as stated post ago needs a defense man to replace Mitchell and resign everyone.

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04-28-2014, 12:45 PM
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Richards and Toffoli to Philly for Simmonds.
No thanks we will keep toffoli and his cheap contract and watch him play. Simmonds was traded from la for a reason so i really don't see him coming back to la.

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THN is like a reactionary HF poster. It's a shame they're the only hockey publication out there because their writing and coverage of hockey has gone down the crapper.
So, I wonder if THN still thinks the Kings need a roster shake up. Dumbasses.

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So, I wonder if THN still thinks the Kings need a roster shake up. Dumbasses.
Still could probably move Richards out if they wanted to, but a shake up? That's harsh.

Same for Blues and Sharks. Not sure they need a shake up moreso than tinkering.

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Still could probably move Richards out if they wanted to, but a shake up? That's harsh.

Same for Blues and Sharks. Not sure they need a shake up moreso than tinkering.
I think the Blues need a minor shake-up, and the Sharks need a major one. The Blues really need a first line center, those don't come cheap, and rarely become available. The Sharks, man, they really need to shake up that core. They have the label of chokers for a reason, and it's been going on a LONG time. Thornton did a complete vanishing act once again when it mattered

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I think the Kings would be wise to move Richards while he still has some value. I could see a team like Edmonton whose in desperate need of veteran leadership in their top 6 being interested.

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I think the Kings would be wise to move Richards while he still has some value. I could see a team like Edmonton whose in desperate need of veteran leadership in their top 6 being interested.
May be, but not for Gagner.

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Caps would have lots of interest in Richards

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Still could probably move Richards out if they wanted to, but a shake up? That's harsh.

Same for Blues and Sharks. Not sure they need a shake up moreso than tinkering.
Any thoughts of a shakeup are done. Agree with the consensus that Richards would be about the biggest move. Notwithstanding that his game has slipped (even if just temporarily), I think the Kings can get a pretty nice return for him.

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The Kings' roster needs a shake-up because why?...because the cap is going UP a big chunk and a lot of big contracts are expiring for them??

There are only two guys who are arguably overpaid on this team who aren't going to be UFAs soon and their total of being overpaid may add up like 3.5m. We have guys like Carter who are way underpaid...if you balance out the underpaid with the overpaid, you have a net of 0.

The Kings roster has no major issue other than it needs to ADD more players to replace the ones who are becoming UFAs.

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