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04-28-2014, 02:58 PM
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I think the D need is significantly more drastic than a #2C. Eakin can at least kinda do it. We need more than one good d-pair.

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04-28-2014, 03:03 PM
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I don't know if this is pipe dream or off-season, but I think I'm just going to post mostly in off-season:

Going the AHL route ....

One of the top goal scorers this season was Teemu Pulkkinen with Grand Rapids (a Detroit draft pick).

Clendening with Rockford (Chicago pick) seems like the most interesting D. He's probably the most NHL ready D in all of the AHL, and he could have an impact immediately.
I've been interested in Clendening since before his draft. He would be an absolutely perfect piece for us but I don't know if Chicago is itching to get rid of him.

On a meta note that you touched on, we should probably merge the pipe dream thread and this offseason thread given the nature of both.

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This is interesting:

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Free-agency implications for Alex Stalock: If he plays 30+ minutes in four more games, he'll be an RFA and not a UFA this summer. #SJSharks
Stalock is starting for SJ tonight. It's highly unlikely he'll get in 3 more games of 30 minutes or more after this one I would think.

His numbers are pretty eye popping this year.

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Was watching in in game 5, and he looked extremely solid. Better than any backup we had all season for sure.

Doubt it happens, but would love to see him in a back up role here.

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I've been interested in Clendening since before his draft. He would be an absolutely perfect piece for us but I don't know if Chicago is itching to get rid of him.

On a meta note that you touched on, we should probably merge the pipe dream thread and this offseason thread given the nature of both.
I've seen multiple people including Corey Pronman say Clandening is NHL ready. Chicago still has Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Oduya, Leddy, Rozsival and Rundblad (gave a 2nd to get him) under contract. All of those are one-ways, and I can't imagine them waiving Rundblad to try and slip him through waivers right after giving up the 2nd.

BTW .... Rundblad is not currently playing for Chicago. They went with Brookbank for Seabrook's suspension.

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I've seen multiple people including Corey Pronman say Clandening is NHL ready. Chicago still has Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Oduya, Leddy, Rozsival and Rundblad (gave a 2nd to get him) under contract. All of those are one-ways, and I can't imagine them waiving Rundblad to try and slip him through waivers right after giving up the 2nd.

BTW .... Rundblad is not currently playing for Chicago. They went with Brookbank for Seabrook's suspension.
If we could get Clendening I would be ALL over that. Do you know how his defense has looked because his numbers speak for themself.

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If we could get Clendening I would be ALL over that. Do you know how his defense has looked because his numbers speak for themself.
I only saw him a few times watching Texas, and he seemed fine to me. He's not a big guy, so ideally like Goligoski he should have a bigger partner or a guy like Daley they can play keep away with.

I have serious reservations that Chicago would actually trade him to us, but I think going out and trading for Rundblad isn't exactly a show of confidence from them in the guy.

I just hope the priority is to upgrade the point on the PP when they get a defender. Without Brad Richards, Goligoski as the lead dog has overseen some pretty awful PPs. He needs to be a compliment not the guy.

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A plus that might come from this season, almost every one of our older vets Cole, Fiddler, Gonchar, Whitney, Thomas, and Horcoff played poorly for either most of the season or playoffs, and some apparently had issues with Ruff.

So hopefully Nill will go with few older vets in the future, maybe only 1 or 2. Horcoff, Fiddler, and Cole all had there moments, but they also had huge chunks where they didnt produce anything

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IMO there is almost zero need to have the older "vet" type players on this roster. The young guys can lead themselves by now and they've almost all been useless.

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04-28-2014, 03:42 PM
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A plus that might come from this season, almost every one of our older vets Cole, Fiddler, Gonchar, Whitney, Thomas, and Horcoff played poorly for either most of the season or playoffs, and some apparently had issues with Ruff.

So hopefully Nill will go with few older vets in the future, maybe only 1 or 2. Horcoff, Fiddler, and Cole all had there moments, but they also had huge chunks where they didnt produce anything
Horcoff was perfect from my POV when they stopped asking him to play center. I'd love if he could only focus on wing, but I don't know that Dallas is going to add two centers this summer. If you did that and Pevs came back, you'd actually be pretty decent.

Benn-Seguin-Chiasson
Peverley-X-Nichushkin
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I think Peverley could be helpful to Val, and I think Val honestly showed some positive growth in his own zone.

I think you could get Vitale for only 2 years which would be perfect for Faksa and Peters to develop until they were ready to compete for a Bottom 6 center spot. The downside to Vitale is he's another agitator, but the upside is he's a speedy, right shot guy good at faceoffs. He's sort of a younger, right shot version of Fids.

Hmm ... I like that quite a bit honestly.

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IMO there is almost zero need to have the older "vet" type players on this roster. The young guys can lead themselves by now and they've almost all been useless.
Yes ... Garbutt and Roussel proved that quite well this series. They never demonstrated a need to calm down or not make stupid decisions. They were 60% or better positive most of the series, but they also made awful, ridiculous decisions that lost games. Well one of them did .... twice.

No team wins without a healthy mix. Just because this year we didn't have the best vets that doesn't mean all vets suck or are unnecessary. The Grumpy Old Man Line was a big part of their success in 99.

Dallas doesn't even get to Game 5 without Fiddler and Horcoff this season.

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Yes ... Garbutt and Roussel proved that quite well this series. They never demonstrated a need to calm down or not make stupid decisions. They were 60% or better positive most of the series, but they also made awful, ridiculous decisions that lost games. Well one of them did .... twice.

No team wins without a healthy mix. Just because this year we didn't have the best vets that doesn't mean all vets suck or are unnecessary. The Grumpy Old Man Line was a big part of their success in 99.

Dallas doesn't even get to Game 5 without Fiddler and Horcoff this season.
Fiddler and Horcoff are fine. I don't mean chop all older guys and go pure youth. I mean we can drop the ones that are there PURELY for leadership reasons and can't produce. Gonchar, Whitney, (cole?), etc.

I also don't think Roussel and Garbutt being stupid is due to lack of leadership, and I think we're getting to the point where players like Seguin and Benn can be considered veterans. Seguin because wow he's experienced it all and Benn is just a leader.

We don't need dead weight for leaders anymore, if we get someone we KNOW can still produce grab it. But don't sign any more Gonchars.

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Fiddler and Horcoff are fine. I don't mean chop all older guys and go pure youth. I mean we can drop the ones that are there PURELY for leadership reasons and can't produce. Gonchar, Whitney, (cole?), etc.

I also don't think Roussel and Garbutt being stupid is due to lack of leadership, and I think we're getting to the point where players like Seguin and Benn can be considered veterans. Seguin because wow he's experienced it all and Benn is just a leader.

We don't need dead weight for leaders anymore, if we get someone we KNOW can still produce grab it. But don't sign any more Gonchars.
Presented that way ... sure that's fine, but those two need vocal support IMO. Plus, Seguin yeah does have some experience, but he's 22 and still learning how to be the #1 guy teams key in on. He struggled a bit with that. That's not a problem, he'll get better, and someone that's dealt with it before could be good for him.

I've mentioned it before, but I still want to see Boston win the Cup so there's at least a small possibility Ignila would join Gaglardi in Dallas. I think he'd be a great guy to have around for all of Dallas' scorers. Few have been as consistent and deadly as Iginla.

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How could anyone say she wasn't? Wow...maybe there's a different Dallas standard.

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How could anyone say she wasn't? Wow...maybe there's a different Dallas standard.
Dallas is a pretentious ******* of a culture.

Way too blonde, 40 and silicone.

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I'm sorry, but she is slightly above average at most. Maybe I'm too spoiled with Nordic chicks but that's how I see it...

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Count me in for wanting gonchar gone. Also Rome. I liked what I saw in nemeth.

Definitely need a solid back up. Would love a 1a/1b tandem. Hopefully we get a 2C (would be ok if we moved our first for a good center), and another top 4 D!

I think Nill will be given the green light to improve this team after finally being back to the playoffs. Who knows though

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Could we get Stastny out of Colorado? he seems to have turned back to his solid playing ways..

would be a great 2nd line centre. I realise now he is likely to stay though

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I just hope the priority is to upgrade the point on the PP when they get a defender. Without Brad Richards, Goligoski as the lead dog has overseen some pretty awful PPs. He needs to be a compliment not the guy.
Well if we were looking for a PP QB then someone like Vatanen could be the target. Seems to have fallen in the Anaheim depth charts and shouldn't cost an arm and a leg. Will be RFA this summer if not signed.

Also still hoping that Nill could pull off a Subban steal
If the office is serious about spending if it will make us better then that would be a great target. Sure it would cost $8.5-9mil per season, or something high enough for MTL to not match the offer sheet.

Yes I know, for that to happen the stars would have to be perfectly lined. a) Subban not happy with MTL office, b) Stars willing to pay up, c) Nill to successfully convince Subban to sign the offer sheet, d) MTL not matching the offer sheet...
[one can dream!]

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If we can move out Goligoski or Daley I would be up for getting Vatenen. Right handed to boot.

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I really wouldnt mind Fiddler coming back. Even when he's not producing he's always noticeable, and i can't think of too many times where it was overly negative.

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A plus that might come from this season, almost every one of our older vets Cole, Fiddler, Gonchar, Whitney, Thomas, and Horcoff played poorly for either most of the season or playoffs, and some apparently had issues with Ruff.

So hopefully Nill will go with few older vets in the future, maybe only 1 or 2. Horcoff, Fiddler, and Cole all had there moments, but they also had huge chunks where they didnt produce anything
Horcoff and Fiddler were fantastic in the playoffs. The rest were all terrible and should be gone if possible, but those two guys impressed the hell out of me.

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