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05-06-2014, 01:36 AM
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Yakupov to the Wild

He does not seem to be working well there maybe it is time for a fresh start. Realistically what would it take for this to happen?

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05-06-2014, 01:41 AM
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He does not seem to be working well there maybe it is time for a fresh start. Realistically what would it take for this to happen?
Koivu +2nd

Coyle+ 1st

Oilers are not selling low, can't see how they could become trade partners.

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05-06-2014, 01:45 AM
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Coyle or Brodin and a first. Not selling low.

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He does not seem to be working well there maybe it is time for a fresh start. Realistically what would it take for this to happen?
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=130572

He's played exactly 111 games in Edmonton and is 20 years old. How exactly is that adequate time to determine that he's not working well in Edmonton and needs a fresh start.

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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=130572

He's played exactly 111 games in Edmonton and is 20 years old. How exactly is that adequate time to determine that he's not working well in Edmonton and needs a fresh start.
because he is a number one overall pick with less than .5 pts per game and a -37 rating

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05-06-2014, 01:53 AM
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Brodin for Yak.

Seems somewhat redundant for the Wild as they have a similar and maybe better player in Neideirreiter.

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05-06-2014, 02:05 AM
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don't see wild as a fit. buffalo, florida and nyi are better fits.
personally I could see yakapov to Islanders for griffin reinhart.
oilers need d-men and islanders need pretty much everything but winger to play with Tavares + okposo are high on list.
draisatl or Bennett can then replace yakapov

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Oilers would ask for someone you won't like the idea of trading, +, since they have no incentive to sell low right now.

You, or a member of your fan base, is going to offer a package consisting of a 3rd liner/mid pair defenceman, your 3rd or 4th best prospect, and a draft pick, then proceed to get indignant when this package is scoffed at. You, or said member of Wild fan base, will then tell us how great this offer is and 'refusing offers like this is why the oilers are in the toilet' or something close.

Every Yak thread goes the same. Not trying to offend but...yeah.

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05-06-2014, 02:36 AM
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You don't trade a young top pick after a bad sophomore year.

Give him one more season, and if he still sucks, then think about shipping him out. After year 3 there will be a much clearer picture of what his value is.

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Brodin for Yak.

Seems somewhat redundant for the Wild as they have a similar and maybe better player in Neideirreiter.


You mean the same player that underperformed for the Isles and traded while his value was low?

Gee, why would the Oilers want to repeat that mistake?

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because he is a number one overall pick with less than .5 pts per game and a -37 rating
Plus minus is a terrible stat and to look further into it the oilers at the start of the season had absolutely atrocious goaltending. Their is an article by a guy named michael parkatti that shows yakupov if equalized with the rest of teammates to the average on ice save percentage he would have only been -8 which for our team is not a terrible number. To go further on it he was on the ice for 5 shorthanded goals which I am not sure how many he is at fault for so the plus minus stat makes him look much worse this season.

The >.5 ppg does not look good at all but remember that pretty much 2 oilers consistently played well offensively under eakins being hall and perron. The whole team seemed to clash with his system initially along with the fact he played a decent amount with Boyd Gordon who while is solid defensively does not contribute much and Sam Gagner who was an absolute shadow of who he was previous seasons. So as a rookie with little veteran support there is still quite a decent chance he turns it around after playing what 111 NHL games on a terrible team.

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because he is a number one overall pick with less than .5 pts per game and a -37 rating
That's a ridiculous comment.

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Plus minus is a terrible stat and to look further into it the oilers at the start of the season had absolutely atrocious goaltending. Their is an article by a guy named michael parkatti that shows yakupov if equalized with the rest of teammates to the average on ice save percentage he would have only been -8 which for our team is not a terrible number. To go further on it he was on the ice for 5 shorthanded goals which I am not sure how many he is at fault for so the plus minus stat makes him look much worse this season.

The >.5 ppg does not look good at all but remember that pretty much 2 oilers consistently played well offensively under eakins being hall and perron. The whole team seemed to clash with his system initially along with the fact he played a decent amount with Boyd Gordon who while is solid defensively does not contribute much and Sam Gagner who was an absolute shadow of who he was previous seasons. So as a rookie with little veteran support there is still quite a decent chance he turns it around after playing what 111 NHL games on a terrible team.
Pretty much Yakupov played with those 2 linemates all season.

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05-06-2014, 03:59 AM
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You mean the same player that underperformed for the Isles and traded while his value was low?

Gee, why would the Oilers want to repeat that mistake?
His value is definitely low. But it's not ever going to get higher playing for the Oilers. Just like Niedereitter with the Isles.

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05-06-2014, 04:11 AM
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Koivu+? Coyle+? Brodin? No way, no how, no chance. I understand that EDM fan don't want to sell low on their #1 overall pick. Sad to say folks at this stage of his career selling low would be your only option. I have seen numerous threads on HF with Edmonton fan looking to trade Yak. EVERY thread where Koivu, Coyle or Brodin has been in a trade prop has been returned with a resounding no. Or in the most conciliatory wording "overpayment required". Coyle is proving to be a legit top6 power forward. Koivu is a proven #1 center, and captain. Brodin's stock has admittedly fallen a bit with his sophomore slump, but is someone fans and management still have high expectations for. Not to say FailNail can't turn around his career, but I certainly am not on board with my team trading a piece of our core in hoping he can.

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05-06-2014, 05:19 AM
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Wait wait wait. Wilds strongest suite is it's wingers. Why would we want to add one more? We need to get rid of some to get Zucker, Bulmer, Gabriel and guys like that more playtime in NHL/AHL.

So no. Klefblom on the other hand, yes please.

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Wait wait wait. Wilds strongest suite is it's wingers. Why would we want to add one more?
To avoid the mistake of signing Vanek to a retirement contract.

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don't see wild as a fit. buffalo, florida and nyi are better fits.
personally I could see yakapov to Islanders for griffin reinhart.
oilers need d-men and islanders need pretty much everything but winger to play with Tavares + okposo are high on list.
draisatl or Bennett can then replace yakapov
Uhh again we have no interest in trading away our best defensive prospect that can step in next year and play for a one dimensional struggling forward.

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Start with Koivu and add some.

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No thanks.

We're set at wingers. And the price for Yak is a no go with some of the suggestions thrown out already.

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if you think you can get another buy-low grifting like you did with Nino, think again

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Coyle or Brodin and a first. Not selling low.

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if you think you can get another buy-low grifting like you did with Nino, think again
We don't want yak in the first place lmfao

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Don't think your gonna get Yak for a third line checker like you did Nińo. Oilers manegement aren't as dumb as Garth snow, but his value is not high enough to get Coyle+ or Koviu+ Or Brodin. It's best for the oilers to just hold on to him and hope he bounces back. Don't make the same mistake the islanders did.

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We don't want yak in the first place lmfao
think again, thread starter is obvious wild fan

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