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05-02-2014, 07:42 PM
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That wasn't interference

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Don't think he was going to make the save anyway, wouldn't have found the puck

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05-02-2014, 07:44 PM
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So he was going to make a save by divining where the puck was? he had no idea where the puck was, his only hope was that it was hit by a stick and it was not.
The ability to make a save is not the deciding factor on if a goalie was interfered with or not. 90% of the GI calls in the NHL are called even when the puck didnt make it in the net.

The two are not connected. Its pretty simple.

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interference calls aren't based on a totally subjective guess as to whether the goalie can make the save or not. if he's interfered with, he's interfered with. malkin pinned his arm down with the stick. that's interference.

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05-02-2014, 07:46 PM
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Looked more like lundquist initiated contact with milk in to try and stop him from batting in the puck.
If that's the case, the precedent set in the Habs/Lightning series says that shouldn't be a goal. That being said, Lundqvist still had no idea where the puck was and had no chance of making the save even if he did. Good goal.

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When you play Pittsburgh and Montreal dont expect fair officiating.

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If GI was based on whether he would have saved it or not, Fleury for example could be completely wiped out with an empty net and the ref could say "oh he's rubbish, he wouldn't have saved it anyway"

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The ability to make a save is not the deciding factor on if a goalie was interfered with or not. 90% of the GI calls in the NHL are called even when the puck didnt make it in the net.

The two are not connected. Its pretty simple.
Thats not interferance in any reasonable sense of the word. His only hope was that a stick hit it over the post, but that didnt happen

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When you play Pittsburgh and Montreal dont expect fair officiating.
officiating has been an absolute mess in this game, but it hasn't been biased.

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When you play Pittsburgh and Montreal dont expect fair officiating.
You should watch tonight's game more carefully then.

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How is it interference when Lundquist initiated it?

Puck is in the air, Henrik has no idea where it is. Sees Malkin knows where it is, ignores puck and tries to block his stick from hitting it.

It's clear cut, in fact I'd say there's not even room for debate. Was Malkin supposed to ignore the puck just because Henrik tries to block his stick?

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05-02-2014, 07:52 PM
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It's a joke that this is not reviewable. Discredits the league and the sport.
I disagree. There was not goalie interference on that play.

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05-02-2014, 07:53 PM
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Thats not interferance in any reasonable sense of the word. His only hope was that a stick hit it over the post, but that didnt happen
Again, you are not understanding this.

If that play happens and the puck goes in the net, or the play happens and the puck rolls into the corner instead, in both cases, its GI.

GI does not depend on (A) of the puck went in or not or (B) if the chance of making the save didn't change.

Malkins stick coming down on Lundqvist arm is all that matters, restricting the motion of that arm, even a little, EVEN IF THE ARM WASN'T MOVING TOWARDS THE PUCK, means its GI.

at the least, swinging your stick and making contact with another player, goalie or not, is something the NHL usually frowns upon.

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Malkin's stick interfere's with Lundqvist's glove before it goes in. Shouldn't have counted. Unbelievable that that's not reviewable.

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Neal's shot went up straight in the air off of Lundqvist, and it falls behind Lundqvist. Lundqvist has no idea where it is. Malkin sees the falling puck behind Lundqvist, and tries to swing at it. Lundqvist, not knowing where it was, saw Malkin go for the puck, so he tries to impede Malkin from getting the puck. Malkin hits Lundqvist's arm, and he pushes it back slightly. The puck hits off of Lundqvist's back and rolls in. It could have gone either way. Malkin did touch Lundqvist, but Lundqvist initiated the contact.

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Topic isn't quite accurate because it wasn't an interference.

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05-02-2014, 07:55 PM
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It is an NHL rule that an opposing player is not allowed to prevent a goalie's ability to make a play on a shot.

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Malkin's stick interfere's with Lundqvist's glove before it goes in. Shouldn't have counted. Unbelievable that that's not reviewable.
Lundqvist initiated the contact, which is why it was not called GI.

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It is an NHL rule that an opposing player is not allowed to prevent a goalie's ability to make a play on a shot.
But Malkin didn't prevent Lundqvist from making a save. It was behind Lundqvist when Malkin made contact.

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...it's interference whether Henrik knew where it was or not...interference is interference...

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05-02-2014, 07:59 PM
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If you want to argue about goalie interference being reviewable by all means I agree with you. But that was not goalie interference.

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05-02-2014, 07:59 PM
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So this conversation will go on for hours and the outcome will be around 50/50, yet we expect a referee to be able to make the 100% correct call (when we cannot even decide on what that is) in a fraction of a second. It's unfair to pin this on a referee, it wasn't clear cut.

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...it's interference whether Henrik knew where it was or not...interference is interference...
There is absolutely no way that was a penalty on Malkin. You can argue incidental contact to disallow the goal, but not an actual Goalie Interference penalty.

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Incidental contact, not interference, at all.

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How on Earth is Lunqvist's glove going to make that save anyway? He idn't even know where the damn puck was.


The excuse gun was cocked and loaded before the series already started. The officiating in this game has been bad, both ways.

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05-02-2014, 08:01 PM
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I dont know why people dont understand this. Even if Lundqvist has a pure 0% chance of getting to thaty puck, he can still be interfered with.

A player could take a puck, shoot it out of the zone, then turn around and hit the goalie with a stick, and its still a penalty. Puck going into the net, irrelevant. Goalie knowing where the puck is, irrelevant. The chance of a save being made changing or not, irrelevant.

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