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05-03-2014, 04:12 PM
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Ott - pit

To Pittsburgh:
Rights to Milan Michalek

To Ottawa:
Rights to Matt Niskanen

What do you guys think?

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05-03-2014, 04:16 PM
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pens would prefer Hemsky for sure

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pens would prefer Hemsky for sure
I agree. However I doubt Pitts makes the deal. Good fit for the Sens, not so much for Pens unless they are letting someone go in the offseason.

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05-03-2014, 04:31 PM
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I hope Melnyk signs Hemmer but it doesn't seem like that likely, if we don't sign him then we should swap his rights IMO. I'd be happy if we swapped his rights for Vrbata/Niskanen.

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Niskanen, even the rights, are worth much more than Michalek, even the rights.

If it's 100% confirmed Nisky refuses to sign in Pit, I would be okay with his rights for Hemskys.

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05-03-2014, 04:50 PM
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Niskanen, even the rights, are worth much more than Michalek, even the rights.

If it's 100% confirmed Nisky refuses to sign in Pit, I would be okay with his rights for Hemskys.
No team will ever trade the rights of a player they are trying to sign. This trade is obviously contingent on that.

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No team will ever trade the rights of a player they are trying to sign. This trade is obviously contingent on that.
What I'm getting at is that Pens have no use for the rights to Michalek. We have no business pursuing him...so why would be trade our break out dman for him?

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05-03-2014, 05:27 PM
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What I'm getting at is that Pens have no use for the rights to Michalek. We have no business pursuing him...so why would be trade our break out dman for him?
Well, thats an entirely different story. Makes sense, though.

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05-03-2014, 05:49 PM
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Would rather just get a pick for his rights. As mentioned above, I'd take Hemsky's rights for Nisky's rights though.

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05-03-2014, 05:53 PM
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Michalek is not what we need in a winger - we need creativity and/or grit with the ability to score in hard areas. I'd rather retain Nisky.

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Michalek is not what we need in a winger - we need creativity and/or grit with the ability to score in hard areas. I'd rather retain Nisky.
This is the only area Michalek scores from, FWIW. I think the Sens really want to retain him for under 4mil, and if not Pittsburgh could probably sign him anyways. I also dont think the Sens would have any interest in Niskanen, we'd have 9 DMen on 1-way contracts if we signed him.

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This is the only area Michalek scores from, FWIW. I think the Sens really want to retain him for under 4mil, and if not Pittsburgh could probably sign him anyways. I also dont think the Sens would have any interest in Niskanen, we'd have 9 DMen on 1-way contracts if we signed him.
Someone on the Pens board described Kunitz and Neal as leaches (which is spot on, despite both of them being good scorers), we need players that can create on their own like Hemsky. Even though he's sorta soft and injury prone, he'd fit well on the Kunitz-Crosby line. As far as not needing Niskanen, that's another story we're just responding to OP.

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05-03-2014, 06:46 PM
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This is the only area Michalek scores from, FWIW. I think the Sens really want to retain him for under 4mil, and if not Pittsburgh could probably sign him anyways. I also dont think the Sens would have any interest in Niskanen, we'd have 9 DMen on 1-way contracts if we signed him.
The "grit" part isn't detachable. I'm talking about a Simmonds or Lucic type for wars of attrition, which really isn't what Michalek's about.

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05-03-2014, 07:09 PM
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Why would Z Michalek's brother go to PIT after what PIT (Bylsma/Shero) did to Z? (trading him for nothing after he wanted to leave the org).

Milan would never sign with PIT, IMO. Value is there, but don't forget the past.

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05-03-2014, 07:12 PM
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Why would Z Michalek's brother go to PIT after what PIT (Bylsma/Shero) did to Z? (trading him for nothing after he wanted to leave the org).

Milan would never sign with PIT, IMO. Value is there, but don't forget the past.
The idea that Z wanted to leave was refuted by a recent article, and Shero essentially traded him to the team of his choice, which is probably why he got a paltry return.

I don't see why there'd be any hard feelings from his brother.

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Someone on the Pens board described Kunitz and Neal as leaches (which is spot on, despite both of them being good scorers), we need players that can create on their own like Hemsky. Even though he's sorta soft and injury prone, he'd fit well on the Kunitz-Crosby line. As far as not needing Niskanen, that's another story we're just responding to OP.
Hemsky is not soft. He's not gritty or a hitter... but he'll take hits all day long to make the play - then get injured for doing so. When I think of soft, I think of the guy who won't block a shot, won't take a hit and never make's a hit. Now Hemsky rarely blocks a shot and rarely hits. But he doesn't shy away from contact and does take hits.

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Why would Z Michalek's brother go to PIT after what PIT (Bylsma/Shero) did to Z? (trading him for nothing after he wanted to leave the org).

Milan would never sign with PIT, IMO. Value is there, but don't forget the past.
So because his brother was moved - to the team of his choice, which is why they received nothing in return - because it wasn't really working out, Michalek who's a forward and not a D like his bother wouldn't want to go there? If there's any way for a struggling offensive forward to find their offensive game, I would think it would be on the wing of two of the best centers in the game...

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If the Sens re-sign Bobby Ryan this summer and the top 6 is set , how about Matt Puempel for one of the Pens d prospects?

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If the Sens re-sign Bobby Ryan this summer and the top 6 is set , how about Matt Puempel for one of the Pens d prospects?
I probably wouldn't do it, guy is pretty good and has played great at every level he's been at. I do like Despres but I don't think he's worth Puempel. He would have been a top 10 pick that year if he wasn't injured IMO.

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If the Sens re-sign Bobby Ryan this summer and the top 6 is set , how about Matt Puempel for one of the Pens d prospects?
It'd be worth exploring. Depends on how our defense situation plays out over the summer too.

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Niskanen on Ottawa is my ideal scenario

I'd give up a lot to get him on the Senators

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Niskanen on Ottawa is my ideal scenario

I'd give up a lot to get him on the Senators
Just say "Lazar" and we'll make it happen.

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