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05-04-2014, 03:56 AM
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I dunno

Nichushkin + Dillon

That's as much as I could muster up to trade from a Dallas perspective.

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05-04-2014, 04:26 AM
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I dunno

Nichushkin + Dillon

That's as much as I could muster up to trade from a Dallas perspective.
thats a respectable offer

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05-04-2014, 04:46 AM
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Losing PK creates a big hole in our D, only bigger hole we have is a legitimate #1C so I'd be looking for that, something around Subban for Duchene or ROR might be a good fit for both teams, no way PK is dealt for a quantity package so think of one for one deals with maybe a small + on either side and really not interested in picks unless Florida offer up #1 along with Huberdeau or Bjugstad

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05-04-2014, 04:48 AM
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I think it would be more constructive to first figure out what the maximum amount the Habs could pay Subban is, and which teams could possibly beat that.

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05-04-2014, 05:05 AM
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I think it would be more constructive to first figure out what the maximum amount the Habs could pay Subban is, and which teams could possibly beat that.

The Habs have the cap room and cash to match any offer, thats not the scary part. The scary part is if a team offers him deal for only 2 years. That would bring him right to UFA status and be a big problem for MTL.

I doubt any team would do that though, no team will risk 4 first rounders for 2 years of Subban.


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05-04-2014, 06:51 AM
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Where was Giroux playing in Sochi? See we can all play that game, means nada
Except that Giroux makes the team if he doesn't get off to such a bad start.

P.K. is a very polarizing figure. His fans regard him very highly, but in some cases I think that is partly due to his Norris trophy victory which wasn't warranted in my view. His detractors will for the most part recognize his talent but will lower his value due to his, let's call it, personality.

Makes for an interesting discussion!

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05-04-2014, 06:59 AM
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Backstrom for Subban


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05-04-2014, 08:04 AM
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Schenn x2, Coburn, 2015 1st? Maaaybe.
The guy who compared this with Eller, Emelin, Gorges and Habs 1st in 2015 was spot on.

Emelin > L Schenn
Coburn > Gorges (slightly)
Eller = B Schenn
Flyers 1st > Habs 1st in 2015

Habs might add a 3rd to even it up. Either way neither package would net Subban or Giroux.

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05-04-2014, 08:27 AM
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JVR. Don't see Toronto (or Montreal) doing it though.

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05-04-2014, 08:54 AM
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JVR. Don't see Toronto (or Montreal) doing it though.
that's not even close from toronto. subban is a #1 defensemen.

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05-04-2014, 10:20 AM
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The Habs have the cap room and cash to match any offer, thats not the scary part. The scary part is if a team offers him deal for only 2 years. That would bring him right to UFA status and be a big problem for MTL.

I doubt any team would do that though, no team will risk 4 first rounders for 2 years of Subban.
I'm not sure any team would do it either, but there is the chance that, given a situation in which Subban is holding out with Montreal, a team could offer an offer sheet worth something like $6m - $6.7m per year over two years. If Subban signs it and Montreal matches they have him until UFA. If Montreal doesn't match they are compensated with a first, second and third. That might actually be worth it for a team directly competing with Montreal and wanting to try to get Subban out of there one way or another. Highly unlikely, yes, but I've seen some strange things in my nearly thirty years.

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05-04-2014, 10:28 AM
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I don't think either team would actually do it, but I would see fair value with Taylor Hall

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05-04-2014, 10:29 AM
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JVR. Don't see Toronto (or Montreal) doing it though.
Please tell me this was a joke.

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05-04-2014, 10:35 AM
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The guy who compared this with Eller, Emelin, Gorges and Habs 1st in 2015 was spot on.

Emelin > L Schenn
Coburn > Gorges (slightly)
Eller = B Schenn
Flyers 1st > Habs 1st in 2015

Habs might add a 3rd to even it up. Either way neither package would net Subban or Giroux.
Emelin>L Schenn
Coburn>Gorges (more than just slightly)
B Schenn>Eller
Flyers 1st = Habs 1st

I would agree that neither package net either of the two superstars.

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05-04-2014, 10:40 AM
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I don't think either team would actually do it, but I would see fair value with Taylor Hall
In raw player value, yes. Hall's contract is a beauty though. I don't know what Subban's demands are, but I'm guessing north of 8. I take Hall at 6 over PK at 8.

Doubt the Habs would do it, but I'd offer Yak+Petry+3rd overall.

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I don't think either team would actually do it, but I would see fair value with Taylor Hall
I honestly just don't see why any team would offer up something of such immense value for a guy who doesn't have a contract. Trading Taylor Hall for Subban's rights is insane, not because Subban isn't an excellent young player who will only get better but because it's a huge risk. Just offer sheet the guy. Montreal will probably match, sure, but what happens if Edmonton trades Hall for Subban and then Subban holds out under after December 1st? Edmonton is without its best forward and can't play Subban until the 2015-2016 season.

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05-04-2014, 10:43 AM
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Emelin>L Schenn
Coburn>Gorges (more than just slightly)
B Schenn>Eller
Flyers 1st = Habs 1st

I would agree that neither package net either of the two superstars.
The gauging value was right before. Fan of both teams

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Kesler + Tanev + 1st 2015 for Subban + Gallagher.
Turrible.

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Wait, Subban doesn't have a contract?

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05-04-2014, 10:51 AM
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Brodin, Nino, and a 1st.
This is an interesting proposal , really likes Nino

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This is an interesting proposal , really likes Nino
Didn't realize that Subban has no contract. Makes the whole thread rather pointless.

BTW, Nino has had a good playoffs, not so much Brodin, but Brodin is more valuable. He is only 20.

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What about.


P.K. Subban
Brendan Gallagher


Ryan Kesler
Chris Tanev
1st 2015
Brendan Gaunce/Hunter Shinkaruk
Like Kesler is a cure for cancer or something.....

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Wait, Subban doesn't have a contract?
Expired this season. The premise here is basically Subban is holding out on a new contract with Montreal, so Montreal is seeking to trade his rights to get something. The Habs have no leverage in this scenario. Honestly, if Montreal is afraid that they will lose him for nothing they should qualify him or attempt to sign him to a short-term deal, and then look for a trade. He would get more in a return. If he signs for two or three years the contract will take him to UFA. I think in that situation teams would be willing to give up more to avoid having to bid against 20 other teams on the UFA market. No team should be trading two or three valuable pieces for a player with whom they then have to turn around and negotiate a contract.

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Not than this would ever, ever, happen, but for fun's sake:

To Ottawa:
rights to PK Subban

To Montreal:
Jason Spezza (fills hole in 1C, strong likelihood he will resign)
One of Cowen/Wiercioch
I'm not too familiar with Montreal's needs, but I'm assuming they're looking for big forwards with grit that can actually play. So one of of: Zack Smith/Colin Greening/Condra
One of Phillips/Gryba/Boro-cop

I feel like this is still a quantity for quality trade, and considering I would do this in a heartbeat if I was Ottawa, it sounds like a bad deal for Montreal. Could someone tell me what their main needs are so maybe the trade could be adjusted/completely redone.

Of course, this would never happen anyways, but again, it's for fun/specualtion.

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In raw player value, yes. Hall's contract is a beauty though. I don't know what Subban's demands are, but I'm guessing north of 8. I take Hall at 6 over PK at 8.

Doubt the Habs would do it, but I'd offer Yak+Petry+3rd overall.
****ing awful.

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