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05-06-2014, 01:29 PM
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Callahan was not the best forward during those playoffs. Richards was.

I'm not arguing about Callahan with a guy who switched allegiances because of him.
Who says I'm not still rooting for the Rangers. I said was rooting for both teams, Tampa is out, so now just rooting for the Rangers, but you need to get a grip of reality here. Callahan was a big factor in those 2012 playoffs, last season he was injured with a torn shoulder, still scored some goals though, one being a game tying goal against Boston.

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05-06-2014, 01:33 PM
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Pretty crazy, I remember seeing Nash dominate games in person in Columbus. He's not the same player he was.

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05-06-2014, 01:37 PM
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During the regular season there was a thread about Rick Nash where some of us trashed him like this and legions of defenders came to his rescue. Now that's he's done his duty for team Canada it seems everyone finds him unanimously awful. Funny turn around. I have hated this guy since before he was a Ranger but really never had to pay him any mind. Since he came to NY I have loathed him. The most overrated player or my life time.

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05-06-2014, 01:41 PM
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We just got shutout in back to back games, I'm not sure Dubinsky and Callahan are the answer.

The answer would have been trading them for an actual scorer. Instead we got Rick Nash. There's not much St. Louis can do, there's nobody to pass to and FWIW came close to having a couple of his own last night.
In the playoffs its not so much about talent as chemistry, you got two bona fide goal scorers and its gotten you nowhere while Columbus had none and they had no problem scoring against the same Penguins team you are averaging less than one goal a game.

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05-06-2014, 01:47 PM
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In the playoffs its not so much about talent as chemistry, you got two bona fide goal scorers and its gotten you nowhere while Columbus had none and they had no problem scoring against the same Penguins team you are averaging less than one goal a game.
We don't have any bonafide goal scorers. All MSL wants to do is pass and Nash thinks he's a scorer but he doesn't actually score.

Replacing them with grinders is not a step in the right direction.

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We don't have any bonafide goal scorers. All MSL wants to do is pass and Nash thinks he's a scorer but he doesn't actually score.

Replacing them with grinders is not a step in the right direction.
MSL thinks he is passing to Steven Stamkos. lol.

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We don't have any bonafide goal scorers. All MSL wants to do is pass and Nash thinks he's a scorer but he doesn't actually score.

Replacing them with grinders is not a step in the right direction.
I think most people would consider them bona fide scorers, problem is they suck right now for you guys, but I still stand by what I say.

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05-06-2014, 01:51 PM
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First they get rid of Dubinsky, then Gaborik, then Callahan. Rangers never learn. All these players hit a small rough patch only to be thrown overboard or forced off this team. It just makes me sick.
Not only that but all those years spent drafting and building from within were destroyed.

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MSL thinks he is passing to Steven Stamkos. lol.
Thought that last night after Stepan whiffed on a one-timer from MSL. Then again when he shot it 3 ft over the net. Lmao.

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05-06-2014, 02:00 PM
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Not only that but all those years spent drafting and building from within were destroyed.
Dubi and Cally both hit rough patches not going to deny that, Dubi had a tougher off season back in 2012. These guys are still in their prime and are going to keep playing hard. I was upset they traded Dubi, and now with Cally gone, I'm just on the fence with this team.

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Thought that last night after Stepan whiffed on a one-timer from MSL. Then again when he shot it 3 ft over the net. Lmao.
LOL, yeah Stepan's shots have been brutal. Nash's are on goal, but they are weak and not very good.

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05-06-2014, 02:33 PM
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I'm so glad the Bruins didn't give up Rask/Hamilton + for him.

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This thread will become irrelevant as soon as Nash is "ON" again. Probably the most inconsistent, streaky player of his calibre.

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This thread will become irrelevant as soon as Nash is "ON" again. Probably the most inconsistent, streaky player of his calibre.
Doubt it.

Wasn't Kovalev the same way?

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We just got shutout in back to back games, I'm not sure Dubinsky and Callahan are the answer.

The answer would have been trading them for an actual scorer. Instead we got Rick Nash. There's not much St. Louis can do, there's nobody to pass to and FWIW came close to having a couple of his own last night.
We just got shut out back to back because the team is inundated with soft, perimeter playing forwards. 2 wingers who play a physical game and go directly to the net would probably do wonders.

It really shouldn't be an issue, because our top line shouldn't be producing less than our 4th line. But when you hang your hopes on an infamous floater, a 38 year old undersized scorer, and Derek Stepan, these things happen.

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05-06-2014, 02:54 PM
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This thread will become irrelevant as soon as Nash is "ON" again. Probably the most inconsistent, streaky player of his calibre.
Even if that's true, It'll become relevant a week later, after he thinks he's contributed enough to call it his playoff performance "good"

So, one goal ought to do it.

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05-06-2014, 02:56 PM
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The Nash/Carter moves also netted the CBJ 3 first round picks (Wennberg/Rychel/Dano). Howson also brought Bobrovsky to town.

Granted this is all following some dismal drafting and contracting in previous years. Howson got it right just as the owner's patience expired.
It might've been for the best. Howson got the trades done to accelerate a CBJ rebuild, while a guy who's better at drafting was the one who made use of the picks he'd acquired.

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05-06-2014, 03:55 PM
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Doubt it.

Wasn't Kovalev the same way?
Rick Nash did have 26 goals in 65 games this year.. more then Kovalev had when he was dwindling out.

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05-06-2014, 04:01 PM
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Rick Nash did have 26 goals in 65 games this year.. more then Kovalev had when he was dwindling out.
Almost all of them were against non-playoff teams.

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05-06-2014, 04:32 PM
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The guy was essentially gift wrapped a gold medal.

Canada's obsession with size baffles me.

He is a 2nd line player at this point.

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05-06-2014, 04:39 PM
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uh here in Canada mostly everybody i know thinks Rick Nash sucks. The Media & hockey execs for team Canada however... no clue.


I guess its the tried & true movement. it worked in 2010, so why change it and risk failure when they did it this year.

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Nash is probably the single best example of the double-standard the north American hockey media has for lazy, underachieving players based on their nationality and/or perceived style (small/fast/finesses versus big/"powerforward").

If Nash were from anywhere in Europe, or were a small North American forward regarded as "soft" he'd be utterly raked over the coals by the media for how he plays and produces.
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Every thing he does wrong is swept under the rug

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05-06-2014, 05:32 PM
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he's the softest big man I've ever seen


but Sather will probably work his magic this summer and trade Nash for some young star player

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he's the softest big man I've ever seen


but Sather will probably work his magic this summer and trade Nash for some young star player
Besides McDonagh, who wasn't a star at the time, when has he ever acquired a YOUNG star. He likes his stars 27 or older, and on big contracts.

Nash has 1 goal in 22 playoff games as a Ranger. He hasn't scored since April 1st. He has 4 points in 10 playoff games and 0 in the last 7. He had 11 hits in 65 games this year, after averaging about 105 per 82 games throughout his career. If his name was Rickard Nischki he would be reviled far worse than Semin and other euros. He's 6'4 220. He's softer than marshmallow fluff.

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Pretty crazy, I remember seeing Nash dominate games in person in Columbus. He's not the same player he was.
It was really awesome watching him scoring 40 goals but I think the best and most complete game he ever played was under Hitchcock. Just didnt like it since he had to work...

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