HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Expansion Draft Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-16-2016, 12:12 PM
  #1
JayKing
Go Habs Go
 
JayKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,222
vCash: 135
Expansion Draft Discussion

From the main boards:

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 ft. pole View Post
So DarrenDreger just said if NHL expands (almost certain it will) that teams can protect 7 forwards, 3 defenseman, and 1 goalie.

If the league expands by 1 team existing franchises can lose 1 player. If the league expands by 2 they can lose 2 players. 1st and 2nd year players are exempt. So are prospects.


So who in your team would you protect? Seems that given theabilityto protect 7 forwards 3 defenseman and 1 goalie some teams are going to lose some good players.



What would be our protection list? And assuming the league expands to 2 teams who do you think our 2 players picked would be?

JayKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:13 PM
  #2
Apoplectic Habs Fan
Registered User
 
Apoplectic Habs Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: PraiseMT.FeelBetter?
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,648
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayKing View Post
From the main boards:






What would be our protection list?
Hopefully expansion would purge some of the crap bergevin signed

Apoplectic Habs Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:14 PM
  #3
Whitesnake
Mediocre Stability
 
Whitesnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lorraine, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 60,261
vCash: 725
Who cares about the rules, you don't need to protect that many people. Just protect DD and we will be fine.

Whitesnake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:20 PM
  #4
shutehinside
Registered User
 
shutehinside's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,890
vCash: 500
Price
PK
Beaulieu
Petry
Patches
Chucky
Gally
Plex
Eller

Last two forwards I'll leave blank because I don't know if we need to protect guys like Ghetto, McCarron etc. If not than chose any of the 4th liners we have like Daneault, Matteau, Mitchell etc...

shutehinside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:21 PM
  #5
FrankMTL
Registered User
 
FrankMTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,281
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayKing View Post
From the main boards:






What would be our protection list? And assuming the league expands to 2 teams who do you think our 2 players picked would be?
I think its pretty easy for us depending on if only NHL regulars count

Price (no brainer)

Subban
Petry
Beaulieu

Galchenyuk
Gallagher
Pacioretty
Plekanec
Eller

To be honest, the rest is expendable in regards to our NHL regulars, but if you want to add players that played in at least 25 games in the NHL this year, I would add

Andrighetto
One of Mitchell or Byron (Probably Byron)

FrankMTL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:21 PM
  #6
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
It's not that complicated to come up with an educated guess for this season.
Next season however...? Hudon and Andrighetto will be eligible, Desharnais and Markov will be UFA. Galchenyuk, Pacioretty and Gallagher will get protected. Price too. Subban, Petry and Beaulieu too (if 76 and 26 has to be).

Otherwise it's up in the air. I wouldn't protect Eller so quickly, however.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:22 PM
  #7
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by shutehinside View Post
Price
PK
Beaulieu
Petry
Patches
Chucky
Gally
Plex
Eller

Last two forwards I'll leave blank because I don't know if we need to protect guys like Ghetto, McCarron etc. If not than chose any of the 4th liners we have like Daneault, Matteau, Mitchell etc...
Next season, Hudon and Ghetto will have to be protected. McCarron and Sherback won't.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:24 PM
  #8
JayKing
Go Habs Go
 
JayKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,222
vCash: 135
7 Forwards:
Galchenyuk
Pacioretty
Gallagher
Plekanec
Andrighetto
de la Rose
Carr

3 d-man:
Subban
Petry
Beaulieu


1 goalie:
Carey Price

Exempt:
McCarron (could be eligible next season depending on his playing time I think. If so, he replaces de la Rose)
Hudon
Dietz


Unprotected:
Desharnais
Eller
Matteau
Markov
Emelin
Pateryn
Scrivens
Condon
Gilbert (ufa)
Flynn
Mitchell
Byron
Barberio
Danault
Bartley
Brown
Lessio

Most likely to get claimed:
Byron & Eller

Markov would probably retire before playing for an expansion team.

JayKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:25 PM
  #9
shutehinside
Registered User
 
shutehinside's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,890
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
Next season, Hudon and Ghetto will have to be protected. McCarron and Sherback won't.
Thanks. My list would be:
Price
PK
Beaulieu
Petry
Patches
Chucky
Gally
Plex
Hudon
DLR

It's basically between DLR and Ghetto so I went with DLR because the Habs already have enough smaller sized, skilled players. I also think DLR has a higher ceiling than he's currently showing and can be a shut down 3rd line centre which is always valuable.

shutehinside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:25 PM
  #10
Runner77
******************
 
Runner77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 14,719
vCash: 24700
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apoplectic Habs Fan View Post
Hopefully expansion would purge some of the crap bergevin signed
Pretty much.

We'd be one of the teams least impacted by the draft given how little we have in terms of elite talent. Some teams are going to lose major pieces while we'll enjoy the shield of immunity thanks to built-in craptitude.

Runner77 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:26 PM
  #11
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayKing View Post
7 Forwards:
Galchenyuk
Pacioretty
Gallagher
Plekanec
Andrighetto
de la Rose
Carr
Eller


3 d-man:
Subban
Petry
Beaulieu


1 goalie:
Carey Price

Exempt:
McCarron
Hudon
Dietz


Unprotected:
Desharnais
Matteau
Markov
Emelin
Pateryn
Scrivens
Condon
Gilbert (ufa)
Flynn
Mitchell
Byron
Barberio
Danault
Bartley
Brown
Lessio

Most likely to get claimed:
Byron & Danault

Markov would probably retire before playing for an expansion team. Emelin
If it's next season : Hudon and Carr will be eligible.

Again -- I wouldn't protect Eller so quickly.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:26 PM
  #12
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by shutehinside View Post
Thanks. My list would be:
Price
PK
Beaulieu
Petry
Patches
Chucky
Gally
Plex
Hudon
DLR

It's basically between DLR and Ghetto so I went with DLR because the Habs already have enough smaller sized, skilled players. I also think DLR has a higher ceiling than he's currently showing and can be a shut down 3rd line centre which is always valuable.
My mistake : Ghetto has to be protected THIS season (and the next one).

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:27 PM
  #13
Captain Saku
Registered User
 
Captain Saku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 13,383
vCash: 500
Many haven't read the OP.

"1st and 2nd year players are exempt. So are prospects."

So guys like Andrighetto and Carr don't need to be protected.

Captain Saku is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:27 PM
  #14
JayKing
Go Habs Go
 
JayKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,222
vCash: 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
If it's next season : Hudon and Carr will be eligible.

Again -- I wouldn't protect Eller so quickly.
changed it up a little bit. Unprotected Eller. Hudon over Carr if you're right but Hudon doesn't even have 1 accrued NHL season so I think you're wrong. Carr will be in his 2nd year next season, so assuming the draft is next season he'd be indeed eligible.

JayKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:28 PM
  #15
AHShadow
Registered User
 
AHShadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 28
vCash: 500
My current list would be:

Price

Subban
Beaulieu
Petry

Patches
Chucky
Gally
Pleky
Eller

Then the two others would be the best of Hudon/Carr/Andrighetto/Danault/DLR
If I'd have to pick right now I think I'd go with Hudon and Danault.

AHShadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:29 PM
  #16
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Basically : players in their 1st and 2nd pro year have to be protected. I take for granted that EXP. draft is before July, so, as an example, Daniel Carr won't be eligible. Sven Andrighetto will.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:29 PM
  #17
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayKing View Post
changed it up a little bit. Unprotected Eller. Hudon over Carr if you're right but Hudon doesn't even have 1 accrued NHL season so I think you're wrong
It's "pro season".

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:31 PM
  #18
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Saku View Post
Many haven't read the OP.

"1st and 2nd year players are exempt. So are prospects."

So guys like Andrighetto and Carr don't need to be protected.
You did the same mistake than me : Andrighetto is on his 3rd pro year.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:32 PM
  #19
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Though I Wonder : Does "pro season" include European pro's?

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:35 PM
  #20
jwrocks1
Registered User
 
jwrocks1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,331
vCash: 500
I wonder if players with NMC would be exempt from this draft

jwrocks1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:38 PM
  #21
Ginu
Registered User
 
Ginu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,330
vCash: 500
Eller would get picked up. It's unlikely Carr would be.

Hence you protect Eller. He holds more value.

Ginu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:39 PM
  #22
habsprospects
Irresponsible User
 
habsprospects's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Sherbrooke, Québec
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,500
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
It's "pro season".
Is it? in the last expansions, it was counting NHL games in the previous 2 seasons.

Edit: okay, nvm, just read the article on TSN.


Last edited by habsprospects: 03-16-2016 at 12:50 PM.
habsprospects is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:42 PM
  #23
Rock On
Registered User
 
Rock On's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Saint-Jean
Country: Canada
Posts: 459
vCash: 500
DD would be a perfect fit on tue 1st line in Vegas

Rock On is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:42 PM
  #24
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hôlle
Posts: 28,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginu View Post
Eller would get picked up. It's unlikely Carr would be.

Hence you protect Eller. He holds more value.
It's probably for next season, not this one. Daneault is younger, cost-controlled. Eller will be one year away from UFA. But Plekanec too will be one year away from UFA.

It's a close call and it mostly hinges on Danault's play next season.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-16-2016, 12:44 PM
  #25
Pax Macioretty
Registered User
 
Pax Macioretty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: hockey city
Posts: 17,356
vCash: 500
Anyone and everyone that says Plekanec should get a slap behind the head.

If a GM is stupid enough to claim that overpriced kitten that's never had great playoffs and hasn't scored a goal in 2016, GREAT. There's players every summer available at half the price that brings what he brings to the table now.

Pax Macioretty is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2016 All Rights Reserved.