Oh no i agree he was terrible. Hoping for some improvement.
I hope I'm wrong, but Momah is a perfect example of straight line speed getting overrated if you don't have short area quickness. I hope he can show some promise, but there is a reason there are no 6'7 wide receivers in the league. It's hard to have the coordination with that fame.
I'm an Iggles fan first & foremost, but I've had Peterson in my $$ keeper league every year since his rookie season ( in a league that started 10 years before I was born ). I've followed both very closely, and I've seen a whole hell of a lot of Peterson throughout the years.
I can say without a shred of doubt Peterson is the superior back, it's really not a debate. The only thing McCoy has on Peterson I guess would be "shiftiness", and the fact that he's younger. Peterson is a whole other animal. Peterson was 9 yards away from breaking the rushing yard record less than a year after tearing his ACL, in a year when the rest of the offense sucked ass, and defenses put 8 in the box almost every down. McCoy's last season was great, no doubt, but he had Chip Kelly's offense, other playmakers ala Djax & Foles, and defenses were not able to stack 8 in the box every down, like Peterson. This doesn't even take into consideration that Peterson has had a **** offensive line since Bryant McKinnie, Matt Birk, and Steve Hutchinson moved on, whereas McCoy was rushing behind one of the best rushing offensive lines last year. Oh, and the whole ACL thing. Let it be noted that I think McCoy is by far the Eagles' biggest offensive threat, and the 2nd best RB in the league. But Peterson is probably going to go down as one of the best of all time. McCoy is not in that discussion of yet.
Originally Posted by Hiesenberg
One is 25 and one is 29.
One has outperformed the other in the last 3 years in all-purpose yards and TD's.
He's not lying.
Way to cherry-pick stats without context, seems very Trade Rumors and Free Agent talk esque
Look, I'm not saying McCoy isn't fantastic, I'm stoked he's an Eagle. I'm just saying he isn't the best in the league, not until Peterson goes downhill ()
Actually, I think it is a fairly valid argument. "Who has played better" is usually a good determining factor on who plays better...
McCoy has had the benefit of playing in Chip Kelly's offense last year. Djax kept at least one deep high safety at all times, and Kelly's offense made it pretty rare for the defense to stack 8 in the box. McCoy played more in a "spread out" offense I guess you could call it, which benefited him due to his "shiftiness". The offense allowed him to get out into more open space, where he could really show off his wheels and elusiveness. Evan Mathis and Jason Peters are two of the best run blocking OLineman in the league.
Peterson has had 1/10th the help to work with. You can't just say "Player X had more yards than player Y", there's more to the story. A RB can't do it all on his own, which is essentially what Peterson has been doing most of these years, and continues to do so.
Look, I'm praying Peterson stays productive for many more years, but I'm realistic. I would not be surprised to see him drop off very soon, possibly as soon as next year. But until he shows he's declining, he's still the king.
Or the whole catching the ball out of the backfield thing.
There's no questioning Peterson is a monster with the ball in his hands, but there is more to being a running back in today's game than that.
Yeah, McCoy certainly has the advantage in that aspect. Ball security as well. But Peterson, while not as elusive/shifty as Shady, can and will run away from, around, or through defenders. He's the (nearly) complete package.
As an aside, if you watch Kelly closely, he's very aware of the situation on the field. If opponents stack the box in the middle of the field, especially if the safety plays in to stop the IZR / OZR, Kelly relies on McCoy with bubble screens on the sides or has Foles air it out due to the weaker coverage.
Once the opposing team plays back (often due to the threat of DeSean--- I think the field will be a little tighter next year, a little!) Chip runs the ball with McCoy or uses short options (and should the LB eye Shady on the fake handoff, Foles is free to roll out to examine the field or take off).
Opposing teams know AP is going to run and he has no help. They stack the box and he still makes them look foolish.