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05-10-2014, 06:08 PM
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Would Car/NJ/PHL/SJ have interest in Phaneuf?

If so, what would be your realistic best offer?

Thanks in advance.

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Ontario captains on the way out soon? Independent sources say both #Sens and #Leafs shopping Spezza/ Phaneuf to west conf #NHL teams
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Philly, no. We just don't have the cap to make that move unless Toronto would be willing to take one or two of Streit, Lecavalier, MacDonald, etc. Nor would I offer something that would seem appealing to Toronto fans. The most I would probably offer excluding the cap, would be a 1st round pick, which is 17th overall and even that I might not do.

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Canes will have to re-sign Sekera after this year so probably not.

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Philly, no. We just don't have the cap to make that move unless Toronto would be willing to take one or two of Streit, Lecavalier, MacDonald, etc. Nor would I offer something that would seem appealing to Toronto fans. The most I would probably offer excluding the cap, would be a 1st round pick, which is 17th overall and even that I might not do.
For Phaneuf to go to Philly, we would need back at least one of B.Schenn/S.Couturier +.

If you needed salary coming back, we could take back L.Schenn (3.6).
B.Schenn is an RFA so he'll probably want a considerable raise.

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For Phaneuf to go to Philly, we would need back at least one of B.Schenn/S.Couturier +.

If you needed salary coming back, we could take back L.Schenn (3.6).
B.Schenn is an RFA so he'll probably want a considerable raise.
nope.

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For Phaneuf to go to Philly, we would need back at least one of B.Schenn/S.Couturier +.

If you needed salary coming back, we could take back L.Schenn (3.6).
B.Schenn is an RFA so he'll probably want a considerable raise.
That's pretty much where the phone call ends.

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nope.

Phaneuf + Ashton for Schenn Bros?

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I don't want Phaneuf, but I know Lou has liked him for some time.

You would have to retain quite a bit of salary for it to work capwise and Larsson is not coming back in a Phaneuf deal, period, so don't even ****ing ask for him


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For me, moving Phaneuf (old core) means that you'd expect back a piece(s) that will become part of a new core which includes JVR/Bernier/Rielly/Gardiner/Kadri.

For me best move includes a high draft pack in return which is why FLA or EDM are the best destinations.

FLA's 1st overall pick+ for DP+

EDM's 3rd overall pick+ for DP.

Would be all over either of these moves as long we're keeping 8th overall.

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I doubt Carolina would want him. Francis has said he's going to be looking for guys who can think the game well, and well, that's not exactly Phaneuf's calling card.

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This Sharks fan isn't interested.

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Phaneuf + Ashton for Schenn Bros?
Pass, easily. No interest in Phaneuf at all.

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None from the Sharks. Too expensive.

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For me, moving Phaneuf (old core) means that you'd expect back a piece(s) that will become part of a new core which includes JVR/Bernier/Rielly/Gardiner/Kadri.

For me best move includes a high draft pack in return which is why FLA or EDM are the best destinations.

FLA's 1st overall pick+ for DP+

EDM's 3rd overall pick+ for DP.

Would be all over either of these moves as long we're keeping 8th overall.
Of course you'd be all over that. You shed 7 x 7 for a top end pick from a team that needs to add 11 players with under 22 million left (depending on cap ceiling) while having 3 good RFAs to re-sign.
DP doesn't carry the value you hope he does.

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Did they not just resign this bum to a crazy contract for 7 mill or something?

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If so, what would be your realistic best offer?

Thanks in advance.
I can't see Carolina being interested...but if it were to happen that they were to swing a deal, it would have to be something vet-for-vet, salary-for-salary centered (Something like Eric Staal for Phaneuf?) which I don't think appeals to the Leafs much. I'm not thrilled with it from the Canes standpoint but it makes a bit of sense...the expectation that Lindholm will be a 1C in a few years and the lack of top-4 D prospects makes it a viable stopgap move for the Canes to at-least get us to 4 top-4 Dmen.

It absolutely would not be for our youth or picks though.

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What do you want from NJD? We might have interest...maybe.

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This Sharks fan says no thanks. Phaneuf's contract isn't a good fit for the Sharks and I'm sure the asking price just won't match from the Sharks POV (and all the SJ-TOR threads too...)

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For Phaneuf to go to Philly, we would need back at least one of B.Schenn/S.Couturier +.

If you needed salary coming back, we could take back L.Schenn (3.6).
B.Schenn is an RFA so he'll probably want a considerable raise.
B.Schenn's cap number isn't going to change much, while his salary will. But for teams like the Flyers and Leafs, that means nothing.

Schenn/Couturier + is an easy no-go for Phaneuf with that contract.

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Jesus.

Phaneuf for the first overall pick?

With his contract, do you even get a top ten pick for him?

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Volchenkov and Salvador for Phaneuf.

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NJ has absolutely no interest in Phaneuf

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Why do people think his contract is bad?

$7 Million is not bad for a fringe #1 guy. He won't even be all that old when the contract ends.

I'd easily do a Schenn bros trade.

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Why do people think his contract is bad?

$7 Million is not bad for a fringe #1 guy. He won't even be all that old when the contract ends.

I'd easily do a Schenn bros trade.
Because a lot of people don't think he is a #1...

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