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The Devils need a number 1 center and I don't believe this roster will stay this way into the playoffs like last year. So take your pick, who do you want? Everyones out there except the obvious (Brodeur, Stevens, Niedermayer and Parise) so long as we get a number 1 center in return.
if I'm not mistaken, Zhamnov is a FA after this season. I could definitely see him as a potential acquisition target for NJD further into the season. Damphousse is another possibility.
Not long-term answers, but both are experienced, both are still productive, and neither have long contracts.
maybe not exactly what you're looking for but how about say...
mike comrie and jani rita
for
colin white and christian berglund
or...
mike comrie and jason chimera
for
david hale and scott gomez..
Although I like White quite a bit better than Gomez if I had to choose between the trades I'd take the bottom one because I think Hale would have a better chance of cracking our line-up than Berglund where he might get lost in our depth of forwards for a while. Gomez deal would also be about $1.25 million cheaper and u always have to look at the bottom line on a small market team.
I'm starting to think Chimera is actually going to have a productive season in Edmonton.. I don't think the Oilers brass are going to be willing to part with him as a "throw-in" in a deal. Realistically, I don't think the Devils will be willing to part with White.. everything I've read says they're grooming him to be Stevens' successor on the d-line. Gomez however might be attainable.. a line of Smyth - Gomez - Dvorak would look pretty good IMO. A deal like this would probably sound good to me:
I don't think you're getting a dirt cheap 55 point center and a top defensive prospect for a contract holdout as the centerpiece. I don't even know if Lou trades for contract holdouts (though there were rumors that he asked about Rachunek)
I think I disagree with the premise here: NJ doesn't need more centers, Rupp has had a good camp, Gomez is good, we also have Madden, Larionov, Rasmussen, and possibly Rheaume for this year. Lockout and beyond we have Foster, Parise, Vrana, Khomutov, Gomez, Rupp, and Madden. I know that not everybody will pan out, but I think center is one of our strongest positions long term. I'd say our position of greatest need is at right wing. After Jamie Langenbrunner, we have guys like Stevenson, Brylin, Gionta, Berglund etc. Nobody that's really a consistant scoring threat (yet).
Yes but there is no clear cut number 1 center. Gomez is a second line center on other teams, Larianov can't play the minutes of a second line center either, and Madden is best suited where he is at, on the 3rd line. Madden isn't supposed to generate points. Rass is a 4th line center. IMO they are set until the playoffs because the situation is not much worse than last year. However, if they want to repeat something has to be done down the middle.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree to a certain extent. I believe we do have 3 scoring line centers: Larionov, Rupp, and Gomez. If we were going to do something about center, I would be more inclined to make a huge deal and bring in a young clear cut #1 center, than go the half assed route and get a Zhamnov or a Comrie, neither of which, in my opinion, would be a large enough upgrade over Gomez to be worth doing. Gomez is a 55 point center, Zhamnov and Comrie are 60 point centers. If we were going to get a center, here is what I'd want to do:
To Dallas: Friesen
To NJ: Arnott
NJ gets Arnott back, Dallas can move Modano back to center and balance it's lines with Friesen, Morrow on the left, Modano, Turgeon at center, and Guerin, Young on the right side.
Not that I would even do this deal; I wouldn't. But I don't think that getting 2nd line centers like Zhamnov and Comrie would really help.
I think St.Louis is trying to unload Weight he may not be a young stud or the main man in the distant future but I think he could hold down the #1 centre job for about three years and give some of your good center prospects time to work themselves into the line-up and develop and when their strong enough to replace him u just trade him again.
Hmm, what's he making? I think it's like $8-9 million per year right? If that's the case I don't think we could do it: we can't take on a lot of salary, and we wouldn't be able to return any appreciable salary (Elias, Brodeur, Stevens, Niedermayer) If he's somehow making less, I would move quite a bit to get 3 years of Doug Weight.
Hmm, what's he making? I think it's like $8-9 million per year right?
Heh right in the middle $8.5million but I think they are pretty unhappy with him I am not sure if they are in such a rush to move him that they would pick up salary. U guys should have a little extra since Tverdosky went to play in Russia right? but never the less that is one hunky piece of change. I have no idea what St. Louis was thinking signing him for that much for that long
We did drop some salary in Tverdovsky and Nieuwendyk (and a little with Daneyko and Rheaume) but Elias' salary went up 500,000, White was signed to a long term deal @ 2.5 mil per year, which probably represents at least a $1.5 million raise, and Larionov was added at $1.5 per year, so that's 3.5 right there. Theorectically we'd still have Niuwendyk's 5.5 million to play with, but Devils management wants to trim payroll, and it's unlikely that we'd take on that kind of bread. Weight's the kind of player I'd want though, no doubt.
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NJ gets Arnott back, Dallas can move Modano back to center and balance it's lines with Friesen, Morrow on the left, Modano, Turgeon at center, and Guerin, Young on the right side.
Why would they want to move Modano back to centre when they've just been trying to get him to play his original position on the left wing again?
He's played center his whole NHL career. I think they only want to move him to wing to make room for Arnott on the first line because Arnott can't play wing. Any Stars fans out there that can tell me if I'm wrong? In any case, I wouldn't do the deal anyway, it was just an example.
Well we aren't talking about long term here. Just until Parise is ready to take on the 1st center job. I would perfer not to get Zhamnov. He just doesn't seem to fit the team well. I would like to play with the idea of getting Doug Weight but the Devils IMO have enough play makers. They need someone to put the puck IN the net. But beggers can't be chosey.
Maybe it would be a good idea to go for Mr.Ugly Mike Ricci I don't think he fits into San Jose's rebuilding plans and they don't have many talented prospect forwards so I would assume they would take a package of something like Pihlman,Berglund, and a 3or4th pick for him.
Well then if I was a devil I would put Madden on the first line(he can score if u give him that role),Ricci on the 2nd, Larionov on the third and Rasmussen/Rupp on the 4th. Ricci and Larionov(holy crap 42 did not even know) are both getting up there in their years but both play pretty well defensively which will fit into NJ's system. When Larionov retires u can move Parise to 2nd line and Ricci down to 3rd and then well.. my crystal balls not that strong but that should make the Devils pretty stable for the concievable future.
Maybe it would be a good idea to go for Mr.Ugly Mike Ricci I don't think he fits into San Jose's rebuilding plans and they don't have many talented prospect forwards so I would assume they would take a package of something like Pihlman,Berglund, and a 3or4th pick for him.
Well then if I was a devil I would put Madden on the first line(he can score if u give him that role),Ricci on the 2nd, Larionov on the third and Rasmussen/Rupp on the 4th. Ricci and Larionov(holy crap 42 did not even know) are both getting up there in their years but both play pretty well defensively which will fit into NJ's system. When Larionov retires u can move Parise to 2nd line and Ricci down to 3rd and then well.. my crystal balls not that strong but that should make the Devils pretty stable for the concievable future.
P.S. Would Comrie for Rupp+Hale be to far off?
I thought Ricci was going to be the Captain and an integral part of San José in this new phase?
I think Philman and Berglund would be enough for Ricci in itself, although I haven't seen him play much. But the Devils don't need another 2nd line Center
I think Comrie for Rupp and Hale would be enough although I wouldn't do. First of all I think it would be the 2nd coming of Mike Danton and we don't need another player like him at all.
I think Philman and Berglund would be enough for Ricci in itself, although I haven't seen him play much. But the Devils don't need another 2nd line Center
I think Comrie for Rupp and Hale would be enough although I wouldn't do. First of all I think it would be the 2nd coming of Mike Danton and we don't need another player like him at all.
Could u enlighten me on how a proven 25-30 goal scorer magically changes into Mike Danton? Or did u just mean they are both problem children?
He's played center his whole NHL career. I think they only want to move him to wing to make room for Arnott on the first line because Arnott can't play wing. Any Stars fans out there that can tell me if I'm wrong? In any case, I wouldn't do the deal anyway, it was just an example.
Modano is an original left winger and has played that untill Hitchcock arrived. He's been adjusted to LW to create a more powerful line and create a proper spot for Pierre Turgeon.
I would certianly not do the deal, doesn't make much sense from our perspective while it's unbalanced valuewise.
